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Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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celedhring

I read that too, but it seemed more of a meme/joke than a real planned celebration. Most stuff I've read from the Ukrainian government is to recommend people don't gather to celebrate.

Sheilbh

Let's bomb Russia!

Zanza

Quote from: Legbiter on August 21, 2022, 11:31:47 AMKamil Galeev provides excellent context to her assassination on his twitter feed. He makes the Russian "experts" in Western media look like retards.
While I like his narratives, I am a bit skeptical on how correct they are. But good to read for sure. Paints Russia as a much more alien society than what I thought before 

Sheilbh

Quote from: Zanza on August 22, 2022, 03:13:23 PMWhile I like his narratives, I am a bit skeptical on how correct they are. But good to read for sure. Paints Russia as a much more alien society than what I thought before 
Yeah I'm a little dubious of him - in part because I tend to be pretty sceptical of very cultural explanations of things which seems to be his thing, his background seems to have been in China studies and Russia experts seem very far away from his threads.

Plus he did a Masters in a humanities at a UK university so there's a bit of recognising an ability to bullshit and read Wiki :lol: :ph34r:
Let's bomb Russia!

Jacob

Quote from: Zanza on August 22, 2022, 03:13:23 PMWhile I like his narratives, I am a bit skeptical on how correct they are. But good to read for sure. Paints Russia as a much more alien society than what I thought before 

I find a lot of his stuff very compelling, and a refreshingly different perspective on areas I don't know that much about. But then, once in a while, he posts on topics I feel more educated about (things related to the West usually) and every so often I find him completely out to lunch there. This makes me wonder about the rest of his work. Still, I read his posts and they certainly stimulate thought.

Legbiter

Ukrainians are claiming to have launched a large counterattack in Kherson.
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celedhring

Quote from: Legbiter on August 29, 2022, 09:56:24 AMUkrainians are claiming to have launched a large counterattack in Kherson.

It would be like the 2352454th time they announce that, though. And tbf, when/if it really happens they probably won't announce it.


Legbiter

Yeah. Kherson itself has concentric defensive rings around it at this point and I don't see them using the Russian approach to taking it. Cutting off Russian forces west of the Dniepr however...
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PDH

I think the Ukrainian Army is just making a huge sink of Russian troops there who are underfed, over-shelled, and constantly worried about losing supply over the Dnipro.
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DGuller

Quote from: celedhring on August 29, 2022, 10:07:13 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on August 29, 2022, 09:56:24 AMUkrainians are claiming to have launched a large counterattack in Kherson.

It would be like the 2352454th time they announce that, though. And tbf, when/if it really happens they probably won't announce it.


I don't think they ever announced a counteroffensive, they were just promising it.  I think it's the real deal, too many reports coming out for it to not be something major.

Crazy_Ivan80

In a way the offensive has been going on for about a month now, what with the preparations via bombardement of supplylines and -dumps.

That said: it's be a good thing if UA can follow op with actual gains on the ground this time. They've been deserving of some good news for a time.

Legbiter

Quote from: PDH on August 29, 2022, 10:32:38 AMI think the Ukrainian Army is just making a huge sink of Russian troops there who are underfed, over-shelled, and constantly worried about losing supply over the Dnipro.

Here's to Putin promoting the Russian commander of Kherson to Field Marshal...
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Crazy_Ivan80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBnW8tFZ1mk&ab_channel=ReportingfromUkraine

popped up on my feed: a short overview of what might have happened so far re the offensive.
Take with grains of salt as always.

Legbiter

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on August 29, 2022, 03:35:25 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBnW8tFZ1mk&ab_channel=ReportingfromUkraine

popped up on my feed: a short overview of what might have happened so far re the offensive.
Take with grains of salt as always.


If this is an accurate summary then the Ukrainians have pierced the first defensive line around Kherson. Good start but 2 more to go. :hmm: 
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Tonitrus

I may be too cynical...but I wonder what the chances are of that IAEA team headed to Zaporizhzhia being "shelled by the Ukrainians" while on their inspection.