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Terror names linked to Air France 447

Started by Weatherman, June 10, 2009, 10:37:49 AM

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Syt

Quote from: Caliga on June 10, 2009, 09:17:46 PM
:rolleyes: Dude, admit Emperor Pedro sounds funny... like King Ralph or Doctor Detroit or something.

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Caliga

LULZ, is Final Destination: real?  Or is it a Protocols of the Elders of Zion conspiracy? :tinfoil:

QuoteWoman who missed Flight 447 is killed in car crash
(Brazil Air Force/AP)
Philippe Naughton

An Italian woman who arrived late for the Air France plane flight that crashed in the Atlantic last week has been killed in a car accident.

Johanna Ganthaler, a pensioner from Bolzano-Bozen province, had been on holiday in Brazil with her husband Kurt and missed Air France Flight 447 after turning up late at Rio de Janeiro airport on May 31.

All 228 people aboard lost their lives after the plane crashed into the Atlantic four hours into its flight to Paris.

The ANSA news agency reported that the couple had managed to pick up a flight from Rio the following day.

It said that Ms Ganthaler died when their car veered across a road in Kufstein, Austria, and swerved into an oncoming truck. Her husband was seriously injured.
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alfred russel

Quote from: DGuller on June 10, 2009, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 10, 2009, 07:21:53 PM
Quote from: grumbler on June 10, 2009, 06:23:22 PM
Indeed.  That is the greatest argument against a bomb.  However, not all airliner bombings have to be acts of terror.  The nombing of the PA flight over Lockerbee (sp?) was not terrorism per se.
Correct.  Also, there was a domestic US airliner downed by a bombing in the 1950s or 60s, and in the end it turned out the bomber took out an insurance policy on some relative (wife or mother or something) and downed the plane so he could collect on it. :menace:
Talk about an overkill.

There was also a drug lord in Colombia that blew up a plane to assassinate someone on the plane.
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Jaron

Quote from: Caliga on June 10, 2009, 08:32:49 PM
I find it hilarious that Brazil ever even had an emperor in the first place.  'Emperor Pedro' sounds like a taco stand or something.  :cool:

:huh:

Why?

Because any Hispanic sounding name must surely be associated with a taco or burrito stand?
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Weatherman

Quote from: Jaron on June 11, 2009, 01:34:38 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 10, 2009, 08:32:49 PM
I find it hilarious that Brazil ever even had an emperor in the first place.  'Emperor Pedro' sounds like a taco stand or something.  :cool:

:huh:

Why?

Because any Hispanic sounding name must surely be associated with a taco or burrito stand?


Neil

Quote from: Jaron on June 11, 2009, 01:34:38 PM
Because any Hispanic sounding name must surely be associated with a taco or burrito stand?
Or some sort of menial labour.
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Caliga

Quote from: Jaron on June 11, 2009, 01:34:38 PM:huh:

Why?

Because any Hispanic sounding name must surely be associated with a taco or burrito stand?
Am I a: closet racidist  :(
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lustindarkness

Quote from: Caliga on June 11, 2009, 12:34:26 PM
LULZ, is Final Destination: real?  Or is it a Protocols of the Elders of Zion conspiracy? :tinfoil:

QuoteWoman who missed Flight 447 is killed in car crash
(Brazil Air Force/AP)
Philippe Naughton

An Italian woman who arrived late for the Air France plane flight that crashed in the Atlantic last week has been killed in a car accident.

Johanna Ganthaler, a pensioner from Bolzano-Bozen province, had been on holiday in Brazil with her husband Kurt and missed Air France Flight 447 after turning up late at Rio de Janeiro airport on May 31.

All 228 people aboard lost their lives after the plane crashed into the Atlantic four hours into its flight to Paris.

The ANSA news agency reported that the couple had managed to pick up a flight from Rio the following day.

It said that Ms Ganthaler died when their car veered across a road in Kufstein, Austria, and swerved into an oncoming truck. Her husband was seriously injured.

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Berkut

Hubby blew up the plane thinking they would both be on it in an effort to end her nagging. Then he drove the car into traffic when that didn't work.

Seems obvious.
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Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: DGuller on June 10, 2009, 12:28:32 PM
Few plane crashes happen from just one factor.  It's almost always an unfortunate mix of several unlikely events coming together.  At least that's what I learned on the Discovery Channel.  :smarty:

Somebody just watched the show on the Tenerife crash. :P

Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: Zanza2 on June 10, 2009, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on June 10, 2009, 01:51:59 PM
I know almost nothing about aviation engineering, but you'd think an airplane acts like a Faraday cage in a thunderstorm (just like a car does).
I read in an article on this crash that it does work as a Faraday cage as long as it is not damaged and its internal electric systems are suitably shielded. However, if it is damaged and a lightening strikes through the fuel tanks for example, they can apparently ignite. Which would lead to an immediate loss of the aircraft.

The Faraday cage effect will be present as long as there is a continuous conductive surface on the outside.  Not continuous in the sense of JP5 wouldn't be any more prone to explosion than gasoline in a car.

That said, it could royally fuck with the avionics.  I know personally of a couple incidents where aircraft have been hit by lightning without loss, though the avionics in those birds are much older than in this Airbus.

Caliga

Quote from: vonmoltke on June 11, 2009, 09:41:56 PM
That said, it could royally fuck with the avionics.  I know personally of a couple incidents where aircraft have been hit by lightning without loss, though the avionics in those birds are much older than in this Airbus.
Well, it's worth nothing that the Airbus is in fact a fly-by-wire aircraft, so theoretically if the avionics were knocked out, the plane would be impossible to control.  I was surprised to learn a year or so ago that there were no emergency mechanical controls.  That seems like a very poor design decision.
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Zanza

Does any reasonably new plane have mechanical controls?

Caliga

Quote from: Zanza2 on June 12, 2009, 01:29:37 AM
Does any reasonably new plane have mechanical controls?
Hmmm... dunno for sure.  :huh:
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