Tea Party Candidate Says It's OK To Stone Gays To Death

[Sheilbh]

And that is Apologist speak for "You are absolutely right but I don't want to think about it."

Not at all. What BBoy's saying's basically a tautology.

But that's not the end of the teaching, as I say, there's a bit more nuance to it.

[Viking]

And that is Apologist speak for "You are absolutely right but I don't want to think about it."

Not at all. What BBoy's saying's basically a tautology.

But that's not the end of the teaching, as I say, there's a bit more nuance to it.

In which case I demand you explain the nuance. Can salvation happen for those who do not accept Jesus Christ as their savior? Is it possible to guarantee salvation outside the church?

[Razgovory]

Still, I'd absolutely love Jake to walk me through the steps to where I become a Christian.  I'd like to know, since believing in God in some capacity probably would make me happier, though I don't seem especially constituted for such belief.

[let me be serious for a second]

H, if you think believing in God would make you happier, try stopping it at a Church some Sunday?  Or a mosque, or temple of one variety or another?  They won't bite, I'm sure even in South Carolina you can find a pretty liberal Church that won't say mean things about gays or blacks.  They also don't make you take any kind of test to determine whether you "believe" or not before entering.

I've been going the last few weeks for the first time in a long time, and I'm surprised how much better, happier even, I feel coming out of a service.  I was mostly going just for the kids benefit, I had thought at first.

My pitch to Ide would be more like "You get free pancakes and coffee afterwords and you get an "in" with South American Marxists.

[Admiral Yi]

No. But there's an element of fear, no?

Not on my part.  And I'm the one being called a homophobe.

[Sheilbh]

Not on my part.  And I'm the one being called a homophobe.

I'm not calling you a homophobe

Certainly not for avoiding group showers. But even then and even if that were motivated by fear I don't necessarily think that's homophobia and as I've said before I absolutely think you can oppose, say, gay marriage without being motivated by homophobia.

The word's moved on. It reminds me of anti-semitism. People tend to use it as a defence: 'how could I be homophobic? I'm not afraid of homosexuality', before moving on to say something fiercely homophobic. It's similar to people moaning about anti-semitism applying mainly to Jews, when Arabs are Semites too. It's a fair point on the literal meaning of the word, but that literalism is often a shield for a homophobe/anti-semite.

Edit: Of course it'd be a lot easier of homosexualist and gayist didn't carry such different meanings

[Ideologue]

I didn't call you a homophobe.

Anyway, I don't like showering in a public bath.  That's not homophobia, I just don't like being naked around people I'm not fucking.

[Admiral Yi]

Neither of you guys have called me a homophobe.  But there are plenty of people out there who will immediately brand anyone who disagrees with their policy preferences a homophobe.

[Ideologue]

Not on my part.  And I'm the one being called a homophobe.

I'm not calling you a homophobe

Certainly not for avoiding group showers. But even then and even if that were motivated by fear I don't necessarily think that's homophobia and as I've said before I absolutely think you can oppose, say, gay marriage without being motivated by homophobia.

The word's moved on. It reminds me of anti-semitism. People tend to use it as a defence: 'how could I be homophobic? I'm not afraid of homosexuality', before moving on to say something fiercely homophobic. It's similar to people moaning about anti-semitism applying mainly to Jews, when Arabs are Semites too. It's a fair point on the literal meaning of the word, but that literalism is often a shield for a homophobe/anti-semite.

Edit: Of course it'd be a lot easier of homosexualist and gayist didn't carry such different meanings

Orientationalist?

Lotta gays would be on the hook for that, though.

[Razgovory]

No. But there's an element of fear, no?

Not on my part.  And I'm the one being called a homophobe.

Wait, I thought you were gay.

[dps]

That said, I do expect you're joking here, since I can't imagine many circumstances where my very foundational beliefs would be turned into their opposites, and I'd become homophobic, misogynist, racist, and rabidly capitalist, those being the four impulses that drive modern rightism.

Bullshit.  I'm about as conservative as anybody who still posts here regularly, and I'm only one of those things (rabidly capitalist). 

OTOH, while I'm definately on the right, I'm not sure how my views match up with whatever you consider "modern rightism".

[Eddie Teach]

No. But there's an element of fear, no?

Not on my part.  And I'm the one being called a homophobe.

Wait, I thought you were gay.

Is that why you've been stalking him? 

[The Brain]

Anyway, I don't like showering in a public bath.  That's not homophobia, I just don't like being naked around people I'm not fucking.

And the other solution didn't occur to you? 

[Siege]

Let's hope no-one from this board ever enters politics. 

Y'all got nothing on me that would keep me from getting elected in my district

Sadly, that may well be true. 

Me too.
I'm running for office after I retire from the Army of darkness.
Senator Siegebreaker has a nice ring to it.

[Viking]

I didn't call you a homophobe.

Anyway, I don't like showering in a public bath.  That's not homophobia, I just don't like being naked around people I'm not fucking.

This indicates a problem for me. Linking nudity to sex or sexuality like that  suggest you have problems. But, we knew that already.

This especially baffling to me when I'm back at home watching tourists at swimming pools. Iceland has a elaborate public bathing culture where the hot-tub at the swimming pool often fill the role the cafe or the pub does in other cultures. Foreigners often either don't shower before getting in the pool (unsanitary imho) or try try showering with their swimming trunks on (merely less unsanitary than not showering). Perhaps it's an issue culture or exposure, but showers are for getting clean and hot tubs and saunas are for relaxing and socializing.

The guy who cant stand naked next to another naked guy without thinking about gay sex has problems. 

[The Brain]

The guy who cant stand naked next to another naked guy without thinking about gay sex has problems.

Homophobe.