UKIP poster boy is a racist immigrant, film at 11

[DontSayBanana]

We need Neil to barge in.

Dreadnought, he'll be able to clear everything up.

[garbon]

Yeah, I'm with garbon here.

An expat is someone who lives in a foreign (to them) country for some reason other than a long vacation, but who isn't immigrating there (for whatever reasons).

If you go to Korea to teach English, you're an expat. If your promotion to VP Logistics (Asia) means you have to go live in Shanghai you're an expat (if you're not Chinese), if you apply to and get a highly paid banking job in Hong Kong (and you're not from there) you're an expat, and if you buy a sweet beach cottage and collect your pension in Costa Rica, you're also an expat.

On what Jos was saying though - yes as an individual it is very hard to break into the EU by yourself if not an EU-citizen as candidates local to that country and then EU have priority...as I think I've been a good example of.

[Warspite]

In the UK debate, an 'expat' is a Briton who lives abroad, whereas an 'immigrant' is a foreigner who lives in Britain, primarily to steal benefits and produce 'hidden immigrants'.

[Jacob]

In the UK debate, an 'expat' is a Briton who lives abroad, whereas an 'immigrant' is a foreigner who lives in Britain, primarily to steal benefits and produce 'hidden immigrants'.

Would the UK debate consider garbon an immigrant or an American expat?

[Warspite]

In the UK debate, an 'expat' is a Briton who lives abroad, whereas an 'immigrant' is a foreigner who lives in Britain, primarily to steal benefits and produce 'hidden immigrants'.

Would the UK debate consider garbon an immigrant or an American expat?

An upstart colonial. :tricorne:

[Richard Hakluyt]

In the UK debate, an 'expat' is a Briton who lives abroad, whereas an 'immigrant' is a foreigner who lives in Britain, primarily to steal benefits and produce 'hidden immigrants'.

Would the UK debate consider garbon an immigrant or an American expat?

For the purposes of the tabloid discussion he would count as an immigrant.

[Martinus]

In the UK debate, an 'expat' is a Briton who lives abroad, whereas an 'immigrant' is a foreigner who lives in Britain, primarily to steal benefits and produce 'hidden immigrants'.

Would the UK debate consider garbon an immigrant or an American expat?

By your definition, 90% of Poles who live in the UK are expats. But British tabloids and politicians call them immigrants. Does it answer your question?

[Martinus]

We need Neil to barge in.

Dreadnought, he'll be able to clear everything up.

One he does, it should be smooth sailing.

[garbon]

In the UK debate, an 'expat' is a Briton who lives abroad, whereas an 'immigrant' is a foreigner who lives in Britain, primarily to steal benefits and produce 'hidden immigrants'.

Would the UK debate consider garbon an immigrant or an American expat?

For the purposes of the tabloid discussion he would count as an immigrant.

I wonder if I (Americans) would even come up in the discussion as we don't have free movement to the UK and have to demonstrate things like that we won't become welfare queens. I would guess we make up an insignificant set of people coming over.

[Tamas]

In the UK debate, an 'expat' is a Briton who lives abroad, whereas an 'immigrant' is a foreigner who lives in Britain, primarily to steal benefits and produce 'hidden immigrants'.

Would the UK debate consider garbon an immigrant or an American expat?

For the purposes of the tabloid discussion he would count as an immigrant.

I wonder if I (Americans) would even come up in the discussion as we don't have free movement to the UK and have to demonstrate things like that we won't become welfare queens. I would guess we make up an insignificant set of people coming over.

I am pretty sure common opinion on USAians is not "dirty immigrant" anywhere.

[Gups]

I wonder if I (Americans) would even come up in the discussion as we don't have free movement to the UK and have to demonstrate things like that we won't become welfare queens. I would guess we make up an insignificant set of people coming over.

It's between 20,000 and 30,000 a years, so about 5% of the total. About the same numbers going the other way.

For the purposes of the tabloid discussion he would count as an immigrant.

[Josquius]

Yeah, I'm with garbon here.

An expat is someone who lives in a foreign (to them) country for some reason other than a long vacation, but who isn't immigrating there (for whatever reasons).

If you go to Korea to teach English, you're an expat. If your promotion to VP Logistics (Asia) means you have to go live in Shanghai you're an expat (if you're not Chinese), if you apply to and get a highly paid banking job in Hong Kong (and you're not from there) you're an expat, and if you buy a sweet beach cottage and collect your pension in Costa Rica, you're also an expat.

How would you differentiate between a immigrant and an expat?

When I read expat newspapers there tends to be quite a big distinction between the theoretically temporary professional expats (though some do become lifers) and the immigrants.

[Admiral Yi]

Immigrant to me suggests an intention to stay.

[garbon]

I was told that my move would not be an expat assignment, though I don't think I have intentions of living the rest of my life in the UK.

[Jacob]

Yeah, I'm with garbon here.

An expat is someone who lives in a foreign (to them) country for some reason other than a long vacation, but who isn't immigrating there (for whatever reasons).

If you go to Korea to teach English, you're an expat. If your promotion to VP Logistics (Asia) means you have to go live in Shanghai you're an expat (if you're not Chinese), if you apply to and get a highly paid banking job in Hong Kong (and you're not from there) you're an expat, and if you buy a sweet beach cottage and collect your pension in Costa Rica, you're also an expat.

How would you differentiate between a immigrant and an expat?

When I read expat newspapers there tends to be quite a big distinction between the theoretically temporary professional expats (though some do become lifers) and the immigrants.

Immigrant = on a path towards citizenship and legal permanent status.
Expat = temporarily there, however long.

The EU's freedom of movement does kinda make that a bit wonky though.