Am I the only one pissed off by the SNP?

[Josquius]

I don't think Cameron getting involved would help matters. Salmond has been pushing for a debate with him for a while, He would just love that, it would give him an opportunity to squarely paint no as the Tory vote.
The more people realise this referendum has nothing to so with the current  government the better


Independence really does worry me. It would fundamentally fuck up my country.  It may be far away and unimportant to London but to the north east it would literally be like our country breaking in half.

[Sheilbh]

I don't think Cameron getting involved would help matters. Salmond has been pushing for a debate with him for a while, He would just love that, it would give him an opportunity to squarely paint no as the Tory vote.

He shouldn't debate him. But it hardly helps that it doesn't look like the PM cares. I mean he gives his first big speech on Scotland in London

[Valmy]

Or maybe the rest of us British could be adult-like, generous and neighbourly in reaction to a yes vote ? 

Divorces typically do not go this way.  Americans would certainly not be that way in the event of such a slap in the face.  Hopefully we will never find out.

[alfred russel]

What happens if it gets a 51% yes vote? Is that really enough?

I think, at a minimum, scotland should have to prevail in at least one pitched battle with england before becoming free. 

[garbon]

Or maybe the rest of us British could be adult-like, generous and neighbourly in reaction to a yes vote ? 

Divorces typically do not go this way.  Americans would certainly not be that way in the event of such a slap in the face.  Hopefully we will never find out.

Depends on the states begging for leave...

[Eddie Teach]

What happens if it gets a 51% yes vote? Is that really enough?

I think, at a minimum, scotland should have to prevail in at least one pitched battle with england before becoming free.

There was Stirling Bridge.

[Valmy]

What happens if it gets a 51% yes vote? Is that really enough?

I think, at a minimum, scotland should have to prevail in at least one pitched battle with england before becoming free.

There was Stirling Bridge.

Bannockburn was better.

[Valmy]

Depends on the states begging for leave...

Yeah right.  The Federal Government would make our lives miserable.

[garbon]

Depends on the states begging for leave...

Yeah right.  The Federal Government would make our lives miserable.

The People aren't really the Government.

[Syt]

Halliburton and Schlumberger are Scottish?  Well I guess they should be ok then.

I was confused there for a second. Schlumberger is also the name of an Austrian producer of Sekt.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I suspect that most English people will react to an independent Scotland in much the same way that they react to Scotland now........indifference. Of course that would appear to be the most irritating attitude to the Scots that we could possibly have 

I've talked to a lot of Scots over the years, both friends and relatives, and one of the primary gripes of SNP-leaning Scots is that Scotland gets so little attention in the national media; try coming from the North of England I tell them. Scotland has slightly less than 1/12 of the UK's population, the old counties of Lancashire (pre '71 boundaries) and Yorkshire each have populations of around 5 million, the same as Scotland. But I don't think that most Scots see it like that; it is a bit like the "Texan's map of the USA", in their hearts they seem to think that Scotland maybe has half or a third of the population of England, so feel slighted by the lack of attention.

Anecdotal I know, but I've had that conversation a fair few times over the years and throw it in for what it is worth.

[grumbler]

I am absolutely in balance as far as my preferred results of the referendum, despite being half-Scot by ancestry (two grandparents born there).  Not because I feel like "a pox on both your houses," but, rather, because I can see good coming from either outcome of the vote.  An independent Scotland would have to face its social and economic challenges squarely, rather than allowing southern money to paper over the cracks, while a British Scotland would have to adjust to the idea that they need to make what they have work, rather than putting off reforms until they gain independence and can "make our own decisions."  In neither case to the problems seem so overwhelming that they only admit of a single solution, or an immediate one.

[Tamas]

Grumbler I am fairly certain that any challenges an independent Scotland would face will be blamed fully on England.

Has anyone made the math to see if Scotland is a net beneficiar of the UK budget, or they would be better off financing themselves?

[Grey Fox]

Grumbler I am fairly certain that any challenges an independent Scotland would face will be blamed fully on England.

Has anyone made the math to see if Scotland is a net beneficiar of the UK budget, or they would be better off financing themselves?

They have Oil...

[derspiess]

Has anyone made the math to see if Scotland is a net beneficiar of the UK budget, or they would be better off financing themselves?

I thought it was common knowledge that they are a huge net beneficiary.