At Least 22 Veterans Kill Themselves Every Day and No One Gives a Shit

Started by jimmy olsen, April 02, 2014, 10:07:50 PM

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alfred russel

Quote from: The Brain on April 05, 2014, 11:40:46 AM
Dude is fighting some serious inner demons here. I'm impressed that he manages to switch accounts for the replies.

Back when I posted under Dorsey and Jebediah, there were times that I had arguments with myself. I thought it was hilarious, and would have probably thought it was more hilarious had I understood that the mods knew they were both me.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

The Brain

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alfred russel

Quote from: Ed Anger on April 05, 2014, 12:16:10 PM
I can barely remember my sock puppet password.

Don't think we are fooled--we know your sock puppets are legion.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Viking

It seems, for western militaries, that suicide resulting from deployment related issues is a greater cause of death than deployment related issues. Even in the case of israel sucide is the leading cause of death during military service (traffic accidents are second), they have to deal with a conscript army, but their service so close to home might mitigate the stress of service.

Perhaps mental fitness and training should be as actively dealt with by the military as physical fitness and training is?
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

mongers

Quote from: Ed Anger on April 05, 2014, 12:16:10 PM
I can barely remember my sock puppet password.

Not much of a help I know, but its' one of your children's first names.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Ed Anger

Quote from: mongers on April 05, 2014, 12:24:44 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 05, 2014, 12:16:10 PM
I can barely remember my sock puppet password.

Not much of a help I know, but its' one of your children's first names.

Nope, can't remember those either.

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

mongers

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Siege

Well, there is no much to do about suicide.
It is a personal choice, as long as it is done privately.
I tell my Soldiers not to do it, it is a permanent solution for a temporary problem, since all problems in life are temporary.
But is really hard for us because we know how easy is to do it.
I myself think about suicide from time to time, but I have never made a plan for it, so I am not too worry about myself doing anything stupid.
Nobody commits suicide without making a plan first, so as long as you don't get to that stage, you are safe.

The Army have the MRT program, master resilience training, to help out Soldiers become better at dealing with the stress of military life.
I think it helps a bit.

And by the way, all these problems have always existed in the military, in all militaries, in all ages.
We are just better now at recognizing it.


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"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

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Valmy

Quote from: Zanza on April 05, 2014, 02:53:19 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 02, 2014, 10:09:05 PM
Happens after every war.  What is there to do about it?
Don't fight useless wars like Iraq, Afghanistan or Vietnam?

Ok but what should we go about the useful ones?
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."