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The Mystery of Missing Malaysia Airlines 370

Started by jimmy olsen, March 08, 2014, 11:29:08 AM

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alfred russel

Quote from: Monoriu on March 25, 2014, 09:31:28 PM

I am pretty sure the PLA will look for the plane in the years to come.  They have already sent people, ships and planes to Perth.

The PLA is better than me. If I can't find my keys within 10 minutes, I give up and just surf the net all day. And that is when I can narrow the search area to my condo. If you told me my keys were somewhere in the Indian Ocean, I wouldn't bother getting out of bed.
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Monoriu

Quote from: alfred russel on March 25, 2014, 09:53:53 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on March 25, 2014, 09:31:28 PM

I am pretty sure the PLA will look for the plane in the years to come.  They have already sent people, ships and planes to Perth.

The PLA is better than me. If I can't find my keys within 10 minutes, I give up and just surf the net all day. And that is when I can narrow the search area to my condo. If you told me my keys were somewhere in the Indian Ocean, I wouldn't bother getting out of bed.

Disaster response is one area that the communists are getting better at.  They know they'll score legitimacy that way.  The population demands closure and to see the black box and the bodies.  It is their chance to show that they are better than the Malaysian government.  Not that it is a very high bar in the first place. 

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jimmy olsen

 :hmm:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/last-call-report-about-co-pilot-latest-bad-twist-jet-n78846

QuoteLast Call: Report About Co-Pilot Latest Bad Twist in Jet Mystery

A Malaysian official denied a report Saturday that the co-pilot of the doomed Malaysia Airlines flight made a "desperate" cellphone call before its demise, further complicating the confusion-shrouded investigation.

Malaysia's New Straits Times, citing unidentified investigators, said they discovered co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid had placed a call when the plane was flying about 200 nautical miles northwest of Penang. Its low altitude allowed for a telecommunications tower to pick up the signal, according to the report.

NBC News has not been able to independently confirm the report, and a Malaysian official said Saturday he "doesn't think this is true."

The latest knocked-down report comes as an earlier New Straights Times report last month claimed the plane was flying at a low altitude to avoid being detected by radar. But Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, head of a new Joint Agency Coordination Center, later said, "We don't know what altitude the aircraft was travelling at."

The New Straights Times said that the co-pilot's call had not been disclosed by officials earlier because the probe is ongoing and revealed information could compromise the investigation.

Malaysian officials are focusing their attention on the crew and pilots after police cleared all 227 passengers of any involvement in the plane's tragic disappearance on March 8, when it left Kuala Lumpur bound for Beijing.

Many experts also maintain that only someone with extensive knowledge of a Boeing-777 would have been able to switch off the communications systems on the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

While the investigation becomes more complicated, the search continues to grow in desperation, as the batteries on the black box could die any day, erasing any hope searchers have of picking up "pings" from the location of the ill-fated jet. Batteries of a black box last about a month, and the plane went missing more than five weeks ago.

Four "pings," which could be from Flight 370's black box have been detected by a U.S. Navy "Towed Pinger Locator," but Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said Saturday that "the signal from the black box is rapidly fading."

After expressing optimism about the search on Friday, Abbott cautioned on Saturday that the hunt might continue "for a long time."

"No one should underestimate the difficulties of the task still ahead of us," Abbott said.

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grumbler

Quote from: Monoriu on April 12, 2014, 08:29:19 PM
I'm not going to believe their denial this time :contract:

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I think Malaysia has joined China, Russia, and North Korea as the governments least likely to tell the truth, even when it is obvious they are lying.
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Monoriu

Quote from: grumbler on April 12, 2014, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on April 12, 2014, 08:29:19 PM
I'm not going to believe their denial this time :contract:

And there are no tanks in Baghdad!  Nor in Tianaman Square!

I think Malaysia has joined China, Russia, and North Korea as the governments least likely to tell the truth, even when it is obvious they are lying.

What I don't understand is, in Malaysia's case, there is no need to be dishonest about it.  It is most likely the action of a rogue pilot.  Not much the Malaysian government can do to prevent it.  What is the point of lying then?

grumbler

Quote from: Monoriu on April 12, 2014, 10:08:03 PM
What I don't understand is, in Malaysia's case, there is no need to be dishonest about it.  It is most likely the action of a rogue pilot.  Not much the Malaysian government can do to prevent it.  What is the point of lying then?

Oh, the lying is worse than that; the loss of the plane is most likely due to an on-board accident, which the Malaysian government could do even less about than the rogue pilot scenario.  Unless the loss was due to some maintenance fuckup that could be traced to the government-appointed board of governors.

Of course, this report is just about as vapor as could be.  A newspaper with no cred cites un-named sources who claim that a phone call was never made but may have been "attempted?"  Yeah, right.
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jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
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jimmy olsen

Doesn't look like this will be much help, that could have drifted in from somewhere thousands of miles away.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/french-investigators-check-plane-debris-remote-french-island-clues-mh370-n400586

QuoteFrench Investigators Check Plane Debris on Remote French Island for Clues in MH370 Hunt

by Tom Costello, Nancy Ing and Erin McClam

Investigators are studying an airplane fragment discovered Wednesday on an island in the Indian Ocean, but they say it is too early to tell whether it might hold a clue to the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 last year.

Boeing investigators have looked at photos of the fragment and say that they believe it is from a 777 aircraft, sources told NBC News Wednesday afternoon.

They believe it is a piece of a wing or flap from a Boeing triple 7 and there is only one 777 missing in the world right now — MH370.





The BEA, the French counterpart to the National Transportation Safety Board, said it was also studying the fragment, which was found by a crew cleaning the coastline of rugged Reunion Island, a French territory east of Madagascar off the southern tip of Africa.

The French newspaper Le Figaro reported that the fragment was about 6 feet long and could be a piece of a wing. The fragment appeared to have been in the water "for a long period," the French Interior Ministry told NBC News.

Sebastien Barthe, a spokesman for the BEA, said it was too soon to tell whether the fragment was part of Flight 370 or even part of that model of aircraft, the Boeing 777. He said French investigators are working with their counterparts in Malaysia and in Australia, which has led the ocean search.

The Malaysian jet, carrying 239 people, disappeared about an hour into its journey from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing on March 8, 2014.


A joint investigation by Australia and Malaysia used satellite data to conclude that the plane probably changed course and headed south for hours before running out of fuel somewhere over the Indian Ocean.

Using boats, planes and sophisticated sonar equipment, crews from around the world have scoured tens of thousands of square miles of the open ocean, but no confirmed piece of the aircraft has been found.

At the United Nations, Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai told reporters that he has sent a team to verify the identity of the plane wreckage.

"Whatever wreckage found needs to be further verified before we can ever confirm that it is belonged to MH370," he said.


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It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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viper37

I suppose they can trace it's path with the current that brought it, even if it's thousand of km away, I'm guessing the current used to bring it to this exact spot would have been narrower.  Combined with the plane's last known trajectory, it might be possible to narrow it down further and start new searches in a new area.
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jimmy olsen

As you can see in this video, there's a lot of seashells attached to the wing. It's possbile that they might be able to trace the origin of them if they're an uncommon species. 


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/airplane-debris-major-lead-mh370-hunt-australia-deputy-pm-says-n400836
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Caliga

Apparently the Prime Minister of Malaysia is now saying the flaperon that washed up on Reunion was definitely part of MH370.
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