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The Mystery of Missing Malaysia Airlines 370

Started by jimmy olsen, March 08, 2014, 11:29:08 AM

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jimmy olsen

Really good article by the Atlantic on this flight that comes to the conclusion that it was almost certainly the Captain who did it

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/07/mh370-malaysia-airlines/590653/
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Caliga

I agree that was a good article, but I was under the impression that the consensus was settled on the Captain as the perpetrator years ago.
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Executive summary? What was his motive, and how did he manage to do it?
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grumbler

Quote from: Caliga on December 31, 2019, 09:19:25 AM
I agree that was a good article, but I was under the impression that the consensus was settled on the Captain as the perpetrator years ago.

Yeah, the modelling of that flight on the Captain's flight simulator program was pretty conclusive.
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Quote from: The Brain on December 31, 2019, 01:02:43 PM
Executive summary? What was his motive, and how did he manage to do it?

Motive unknown, but he likely did it by sending the co-pilot out of the cockpit, locking the door, and depressurizing the cabin.  The emergency breathing systems only last 15 minutes.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Brain on December 31, 2019, 01:02:43 PM
Executive summary? What was his motive, and how did he manage to do it?

Just read the article.  It's only 60 pages.

The Brain

I read it. Just like the German guy (AFAIK), the lack of motive seems weird to me. I can totally believe that they were suicidal, but that doesn't explain why they were homicidal.
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Caliga

Murder-suicide isn't all that uncommon, and not sure how you can ask dead guys what motivated them in order to gain a general understanding of why they felt compelled to murder others in their act of suicide. :hmm:
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The Brain

Quote from: Caliga on December 31, 2019, 02:37:59 PM
Murder-suicide isn't all that uncommon, and not sure how you can ask dead guys what motivated them in order to gain a general understanding of why they felt compelled to murder others in their act of suicide. :hmm:

Do you include stuff like guy murdering his wife and then killing himself in murder-suicides? How common is suicide that involves murdering strangers?
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Brain on December 31, 2019, 02:40:30 PM
Do you include stuff like guy murdering his wife and then killing himself in murder-suicides? How common is suicide that involves murdering strangers?

Obviously pretty common for suicide vest guys.  This is clearly different.

Maybe he really hated dickheaded Chinese tourists.  :hmm:

The Brain

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 31, 2019, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 31, 2019, 02:40:30 PM
Do you include stuff like guy murdering his wife and then killing himself in murder-suicides? How common is suicide that involves murdering strangers?

Obviously pretty common for suicide vest guys.  This is clearly different.

Maybe he really hated dickheaded Chinese tourists.  :hmm:

Suicide vests seem to me to be murders that involve suicide, not the other way around. As you say it's not the same thing.
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Is there any reason the cockpit needs the controls to dwlressure the cabin?
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Caliga on December 31, 2019, 02:37:59 PM
Murder-suicide isn't all that uncommon, and not sure how you can ask dead guys what motivated them in order to gain a general understanding of why they felt compelled to murder others in their act of suicide. :hmm:

Murder suicides usually involve people the killer has a grudge against, or some sort of twisted love or relationship. They don't typically involve hundreds of unrelated victims.
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Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Tonitrus

Wasn't there also that depressed pilot that crashed a jet into the Alps several years ago?