The Mammoth Cometh: NYT Magazine longread on bringing back extinct animals

Started by Queequeg, February 27, 2014, 11:58:45 AM

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Valmy

I think we should bring back a few animals and learn how to do it and see what impacts it might have, just in case we ever need to do it someday for some reason.

Something as huge as a mammoth might be a bad idea for a first go though. Well and there is also the issue this animal has been extinct for thousands of years. An animal that became extinct last year might be a better idea.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Zanza

Aren't we making 1000s of species every year go extinct from habitat loss? Seems to be a better idea to work on reducing or stopping that than trying to bring back the mammoth...

Valmy

Quote from: Zanza on February 17, 2017, 11:59:57 AM
Aren't we making 1000s of species every year go extinct from habitat loss? Seems to be a better idea to work on reducing or stopping that than trying to bring back the mammoth...


Well one may in the service to the other. Bringing back extinct species that is, not necessarily the mammoth.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

LaCroix

Quote from: Zanza on February 17, 2017, 11:59:57 AM
Aren't we making 1000s of species every year go extinct from habitat loss? Seems to be a better idea to work on reducing or stopping that

why?

Valmy

Quote from: LaCroix on February 17, 2017, 12:08:30 PM
Quote from: Zanza on February 17, 2017, 11:59:57 AM
Aren't we making 1000s of species every year go extinct from habitat loss? Seems to be a better idea to work on reducing or stopping that

why?

Because it is potentially damaging to us both existentially and economically.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

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LaCroix

isn't "being damaged existentially" the price to pay for our civilizing? and some industries die, that's life.

Valmy

Quote from: LaCroix on February 17, 2017, 01:55:13 PM
isn't "being damaged existentially" the price to pay for our civilizing? and some industries die, that's life.

Yes but earth is an industry that is too big to fail.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

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Quote from: Valmy on February 17, 2017, 11:52:00 AM
I think we should bring back a few animals and learn how to do it and see what impacts it might have, just in case we ever need to do it someday for some reason.

Something as huge as a mammoth might be a bad idea for a first go though. Well and there is also the issue this animal has been extinct for thousands of years. An animal that became extinct last year might be a better idea.
better start with something big, yet manageable.  If you lose track of it, it's easy to hunt them down.
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garbon

Quote from: Zanza on February 17, 2017, 11:59:57 AM
Aren't we making 1000s of species every year go extinct from habitat loss? Seems to be a better idea to work on reducing or stopping that than trying to bring back the mammoth...

That was mentioned in the article and strikes me as a rather tangential statement. Certainly we should do that, but the geneticists working on this can't be easily reallocated to become conservationists.
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Quote from: Valmy on February 17, 2017, 11:52:00 AM
I think we should bring back a few animals and learn how to do it and see what impacts it might have, just in case we ever need to do it someday for some reason.

Something as huge as a mammoth might be a bad idea for a first go though. Well and there is also the issue this animal has been extinct for thousands of years. An animal that became extinct last year might be a better idea.

We should start with Tyrannasaurus Rex. Go big or go home.
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Quote from: alfred russel on February 17, 2017, 07:37:02 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 17, 2017, 11:52:00 AM
I think we should bring back a few animals and learn how to do it and see what impacts it might have, just in case we ever need to do it someday for some reason.

Something as huge as a mammoth might be a bad idea for a first go though. Well and there is also the issue this animal has been extinct for thousands of years. An animal that became extinct last year might be a better idea.

We should start with Tyrannasaurus Rex. Go big or go home.

Oh if only we could.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."