Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?

[derspiess]

Please explain the non-racist way of complaining about miscegenation please.  I mean really?  I am only the type who reads racism into racism.

I thought it was not so much complaining about miscegenation but complaining about someone's motives.

[Sheilbh]

I think complaining about mixed race marriages based on self-loathing is as worthwhile as moaning about gnome genocides.

[Capetan Mihali]

Does anyone really believe there is a significant number of white people going around seeking out interracial relationships with the motive of punishing the evil white race? 

[Malthus]

I think complaining about mixed race marriages based on self-loathing is as worthwhile as moaning about gnome genocides.

I would simply assume that the person complaining about it is making a backhanded assertion that mixed-race marriages are generally based on self-loathing, presumably on the part of the White partner - that is, the person doing the complaining is a racist jackass.  But maybe it reads better in context.

[grumbler]

I don't see how you get that lesson from the Holocaust Joan.

Yi, I don't see how you could not get that lesson from the Holocaust, the Armenian Genocide, the Rwandan Genocide, the Cambodian Genocide, the genocides by the Zulus under Shaka, the Herero Genocide, etc, etc.

[Malthus]

Does anyone really believe there is a significant number of white people going around seeking out interracial relationships with the motive of punishing the evil white race? 

No, but that would make a good porn plot.

[derspiess]

I think complaining about mixed race marriages based on self-loathing is as worthwhile as moaning about gnome genocides.

I wouldn't argue with that. It's not a big deal to me, but I don't think the complaint is necessarily racist.

[Admiral Yi]

To me it sounds like a sophisticated Jewish guilt trip about marrying out.

[garbon]

I think complaining about mixed race marriages based on self-loathing is as worthwhile as moaning about gnome genocides.

I wouldn't argue with that. It's not a big deal to me, but I don't think the complaint is necessarily racist.

Seems to me, though, of course without context, like it could overemphasize a trivial subject and thus creating an argument against that is by and large irrelevant.

[Valmy]

I think complaining about mixed race marriages based on self-loathing is as worthwhile as moaning about gnome genocides.

I wouldn't argue with that. It's not a big deal to me, but I don't think the complaint is necessarily racist.

It doesn't bother me either.  It just opens him up to being labeled as such and having the rest of his arguments dismissed, so I thought it was foolish.

[Duque de Bragança]

I also fail to understand what's racist about saying something that boils down to "don't get married for the wrong reasons"; is he supposed to dodge the technically accurate wording given the subject of the discussion? Or is there something inaccurate in what was posted above? Did he complain of miscegenation in any other circumstances than that motivated by self-hatred?

Nope, and that's only a small part of the book anyways, blown out of proportion as always by the usual suspects.

As for the Commie resistance, even a guy like Guy Môquet who was arrested under an anti-communist Third Republic law banning the PCF, by Vichy, for distributing anti-war propaganda as per Stalin's dictates, is still seen by a resistant and has a metro station to his name.
He just happened to be one of the first victims of Nazi firing squads during the occupation when the Nazis demanded some hostages for reprisals after a killing of a high-ranked Wehrmacht officer by communists (no longer being "revolutionary defeatists after June 1941) to Vichy. If you ask me, that's one the least worst Vichy crimes (not as bad as enforcing dubbing).
Even Sarkozy, cynically or cleverly used this "icon" for political benefit.

[Duque de Bragança]

To me it sounds like a sophisticated Jewish guilt trip about marrying out.

You may be on to something. 

[Malthus]

To me it sounds like a sophisticated Jewish guilt trip about marrying out.

Most Jews who marry out marry people who look very much like them.

[MadImmortalMan]

There's probably an evolutionary monkey reason for it, but I have no idea why modern people would feel guilt over the crimes of others. I reject the concept of guilt as anything but individual.

[Admiral Yi]

There's probably an evolutionary monkey reason for it, but I have no idea why modern people would feel guilt over the crimes of others. I reject the concept of guilt as anything but individual.

I agree that guilt (or contrition) should be individual, but responsibility can be collective.