Scott: 'New Alien film to be prequel'

[Darth Wagtaros]

More like the out-of-control consumerism I've been decrying for ages.  Still, wouldn't like to walk the streets of ruined cities?  Mind you Montreal is already starting to look like a 3rd World city

I don't understand how out of control consumerism is to blame for this.  Even back in the glory days of whatever kind of cinema you actually liked, movies that people wanted to see got made.  The failing isn't in the system, or the producers, but in us.

Besides, the cities won't be ruined in the short term.  They'll simply be inhabited by modern savages who will be less and less able to understand the principles that allow modern life.  Eventually, things will break down and they won't be able to fix them, but that will take generations.  Barbarism starts as a social phenomenon and moves from there.

True. 

[Barrister]

So if the only good prequels we can come up are Godfather II and The Magician's Nephew, it shows that prequels suck so much it takes Francis Ford Coppola or C.S. Lewis to make a good one.

[Savonarola]

So if the only good prequels we can come up are Godfather II and The Magician's Nephew, it shows that prequels suck so much it takes Francis Ford Coppola or C.S. Lewis to make a good one.

The Good, The Band and The Ugly is a prequel; unless you believe Sergio Leone when he said that Clint Eastwood plays three different characters in the three films.

Amityville II is a prequel and a quality example of no rules cinema.

[Neil]

So if the only good prequels we can come up are Godfather II and The Magician's Nephew, it shows that prequels suck so much it takes Francis Ford Coppola or C.S. Lewis to make a good one.

Except that the Godfather II wasn't a real prequel and the Magicians Nephew isn't a film.  So that still leaves the film industry without a truly great prequel.

[Barrister]

So if the only good prequels we can come up are Godfather II and The Magician's Nephew, it shows that prequels suck so much it takes Francis Ford Coppola or C.S. Lewis to make a good one.

The Good, The Band and The Ugly is a prequel; unless you believe Sergio Leone when he said that Clint Eastwood plays three different characters in the three films.

Amityville II is a prequel and a quality example of no rules cinema.

I don't know if "episodic" works really count as prequels - works that may involve the same character but display no particular character development or no carryover in terms of storyline from one work to another.

And Neil, while I agree it's hard to call GFII a prequel I'm allowing it to show just how exceptional it is.

And I would include books in the general suckitude of prequels.  For some reason I'm thinking of the multitude of Dragonlance Prequels that were written.

[Savonarola]

I don't know if "episodic" works really count as prequels - works that may involve the same character but display no particular character development or no carryover in terms of storyline from one work to another.

The Good, The Bad and the Ugly" features major character development; the serape The Man With No Name picks up is his most defining feature of his personality in the next two films.   

And I would include books in the general suckitude of prequels.  For some reason I'm thinking of the multitude of Dragonlance Prequels that were written.

If we include books then "Wide Sargasso Sea" and "Wicked" are prequels to "Jane Eyre" and "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" respectively.

[Eddie Teach]

The Good, The Bad and the Ugly" features major character development; the serape The Man With No Name picks up is his most defining feature of his personality in the next two films.   

But Lee van Cleef gets killed, so it can't be the first. 

[Savonarola]

But Lee van Cleef gets killed, so it can't be the first. 

His personality changed too; maybe he became a revenant between The Good, The Bad and the Ugly and For a Few Dollars More.

[Barrister]

I don't know if "episodic" works really count as prequels - works that may involve the same character but display no particular character development or no carryover in terms of storyline from one work to another.

The Good, The Bad and the Ugly" features major character development; the serape The Man With No Name picks up is his most defining feature of his personality in the next two films.   

And I would include books in the general suckitude of prequels.  For some reason I'm thinking of the multitude of Dragonlance Prequels that were written.

If we include books then "Wide Sargasso Sea" and "Wicked" are prequels to "Jane Eyre" and "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" respectively.

I'll let the first comment stand as proof of the point I was already making.  :p

I don't know those books.  Are they exceptions to the "prequels=teh suck" hypothesis or not?

[The Brain]

The Good, The Bad and the Ugly" features major character development; the serape The Man With No Name picks up is his most defining feature of his personality in the next two films.   

But Lee van Cleef gets killed, so it can't be the first. 

Are you joking?

[Eddie Teach]

I don't know those books.  Are they exceptions to the "prequels=teh suck" hypothesis or not?

Wicked was great, kind of a stretch to call it a prequel to Wizard of Oz though.

[Syt]

The Good, The Bad and the Ugly" features major character development; the serape The Man With No Name picks up is his most defining feature of his personality in the next two films.   

I thought they were seperate films with more or less the same characters but not at all connected (at least as per Leone's intention)?

[Berkut]

But the last three Star Wars movies were all prequels, so clearly it is possible...

[ulmont]

I don't know those books.  Are they exceptions to the "prequels=teh suck" hypothesis or not?

They aren't really prequels, they are (radically) different viewpoints for the same characters.

[Ed Anger]

As long as they don't fuck with Aliens.