Ukraine's European Revolution?

[Admiral Yi]

With the exception of Israel, has that happened at all since WWII, disputed territories notwithstanding?

East Timor, Hong Kong

I think Morocco annexed Mauritania, didn't it?

[DGuller]

Yeah.  It's pretty clear that Yanukovich went all-in for the military solution to the problem.  It seems like large-scale military defections are the only realistic hope for the protesters.

Has he gotten the military involved yet, or is he still using the Berkut-type guys for his "anti-terrorist operations"?

As far as I can tell, not yet, but he declared that the army is preparing for the "anti-terrorist" campaign, and the army chief was replaced just now.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

The problem with the last option is that the weak client state will still have Lviv to contend with.  It took even Stalin years to subjugate the area.  A city like Lviv is exactly what you don't want to own if your country's government is teetering on the edge of losing legitimacy.

Why was Stalin so insistent on folding Lviv into Ukraine instead of leaving it in Poland?

[KRonn]

I'll admit I have very limited knowledge on the subject-- just going by what I've gathered from the news & other sources over the past few years.  Do you know of any legit opinion polls or anything that disprove the notion that the southern and eastern parts of Ukraine (and roughly half the population) is pro-Russia?

You are falling into the Kremlin's trap and conflating multiple different concepts.  The eastern part is definitely more pro-Russia than the western part, but to make a leap of faith that they would favor the breakup of the country and being effectively absorbed into Russia is a stretch.

I had no idea if there's any real desire among Ukrainians to split the country. I tended to doubt it but that's just my feeling without a strong understanding of the attitudes there.  I'm assuming the east isn't all that willing to become a Russian satellite either, not sure on that. If so it would make the play by the current government leaders for that to be going so much more against the population's views than just many in the west of the country. 

[Razgovory]

With the exception of Israel, has that happened at all since WWII, disputed territories notwithstanding?

East Timor, Hong Kong

I think Morocco annexed Mauritania, didn't it?

South Vietnam, Goa, East Germany and South Yemen as well

[derspiess]

As far as I can tell, not yet, but he declared that the army is preparing for the "anti-terrorist" campaign, and the army chief was replaced just now.

That's not a good sign, then.  I think he was the dude making statements to the effect that he didn't want the military to move against civilians.

[Admiral Yi]

South Vietnam, Goa, East Germany and South Yemen as well

Check out the big brain on Razz!

[Grinning_Colossus]

With the exception of Israel, has that happened at all since WWII, disputed territories notwithstanding?

East Timor, Hong Kong

I think Morocco annexed Mauritania, didn't it?

Indonesia also gobbled up West Papua, and India invaded Hyderabad and Goa.

Morocco annexed Western Sahara, not Mauritania.

[alfred russel]

Mauritania still exists.

[derspiess]

Yeah, Mauritania is still an independent country

[Admiral Yi]

[Maximus]

Tibet

[DGuller]

The problem with the last option is that the weak client state will still have Lviv to contend with.  It took even Stalin years to subjugate the area.  A city like Lviv is exactly what you don't want to own if your country's government is teetering on the edge of losing legitimacy.

Why was Stalin so insistent on folding Lviv into Ukraine instead of leaving it in Poland?

My guess is because it was a culturally Ukrainian city.  The Interwar Poles did not treat Galicia well either, and did not consider it their core territory, though in hindsight they turned out to be somewhat more benign masters than the Soviets.

[Ed Anger]

Time to armor up my RV to run the nuclear ravaged roads of America.

What was the name of that show?

Damnation Alley

[crazy canuck]

Time to armor up my RV to run the nuclear ravaged roads of America.

What was the name of that show?

Damnation Alley

Bless you and your knowledge of 80s shows.