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Started by Sheilbh, December 03, 2013, 07:39:37 AM

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garbon

#4080
April 14, 2014, 10:15:55 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 14, 2014, 10:12:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 14, 2014, 10:08:02 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 14, 2014, 10:03:08 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 14, 2014, 10:02:05 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 14, 2014, 10:00:43 AM
The thread title is just awesome, and most fitting, and will remain proper for the coming year or two.

:glare:  A little gauche to toot your own horn like that.

And I haven't even mentioned my fabulous shoes.

What is with you people and feet?

That's racissss

Answer stricken as non-responsive.

Did I get that right? :unsure:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas

#4081
April 14, 2014, 10:17:10 AM
So if they follow the Crimean script by the book, the "local civilians" should start blockading military bases in a day or two, right?

mongers

#4082
April 14, 2014, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 14, 2014, 09:58:05 AM
Mongers screwed up, we need one thread on this, not two.  :glare:

Your thread will die.   :sleep:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Tamas

#4083
April 14, 2014, 10:20:19 AM
Quote from: mongers on April 14, 2014, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 14, 2014, 09:58:05 AM
Mongers screwed up, we need one thread on this, not two.  :glare:

Your thread will die.   :sleep:

you have created chaos and confusion, and I am merely protecting the interests of the ethnic Languishians.

Razgovory

#4084
April 14, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
Quote from: Syt on April 14, 2014, 09:46:12 AM
ITAR-TASS:

QuoteNOVO-OGAREVO, April 14. /ITAR-TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin is watching the situation in the east of Ukraine with great alarm, presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov says.

Asked about Putin's reaction to reports coming from eastern Ukrainian regions asking the Russian president to interfere, Peskov told journalistsб "Unfortunately, many such requests, addressed personally to Putin and asking him to help, interfere in this or that form, are coming from eastern Ukraine".

"The Russian president is watching the development of the situation in these regions with great alarm," Peskov said.

"That's all I can say on the issue," the spokesman added.

Well duh, It's only natural for officers in the field to request support and direction from central command.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#4085
April 14, 2014, 10:29:00 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 14, 2014, 09:57:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 14, 2014, 09:18:11 AM
The problem isn't Poland. The problem are the Baltic States. They:
-have significant Russian minorities
-are former Russian/Soviet Empire territory
-are NATO members

The Russians in the Baltics for the most part are not interesting in going back to Russia, which would involve joining a country with half the per capita GDP.  The situation in Ukraine is opposite.

Most of the Russians in Ukraine aren't interested in joining Russia either.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

alfred russel

#4086
April 14, 2014, 10:39:47 AM
Quote from: DGuller on April 14, 2014, 09:58:23 AM
Quote from: grumbler on April 14, 2014, 09:51:45 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on April 14, 2014, 09:42:48 AM
Right, and that's why I mentioned how far Ukraine as fallen. Per capita it was basically on par with Russia when the USSR collapsed, now it is vastly poorer.

Not really a fair comparison - Russia has vast petroleum and gas reserves.

A better comparison is Belorus.  Belorus has most of the same issues as Ukraine, and lacks the resources of Russia.  It has nearly double Ukraine's per-capita GDP, while having only half of Russia's.

When your leadership is worse than that of Belorus, you have no leadership.
:mad: I just said that very thing in the other thread.

Can we only have one thread? I don't care which one.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Capetan Mihali

#4087
April 14, 2014, 10:43:22 AM
Ultimately, Sheilbh's thread will rule the day.  It's already mega.
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derspiess

#4088
April 14, 2014, 10:43:48 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on April 14, 2014, 10:39:47 AM
Can we only have one thread? I don't care which one.

I'll make a new one and we can use that.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

PDH

#4090
April 14, 2014, 10:48:41 AM
I think we need a place to post stuff about the Ukraine, so I started a thread.
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

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-CdM

derspiess

#4091
April 14, 2014, 10:48:59 AM
:thumbsup:  It's about time.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

#4092
April 14, 2014, 10:52:35 AM
We can solve this schism by continuously electing new Popes.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Tamas

#4093
April 14, 2014, 11:33:59 AM

Zoupa

#4094
April 14, 2014, 11:33:59 AM
lulz

I missed you guys.
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