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When Yasser met polonium-210: Whodunit?

Started by Grinning_Colossus, November 07, 2013, 02:29:28 PM

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Well?

Israel, duh
8 (33.3%)
Russia with their polonium fetish
6 (25%)
USA! USA!
1 (4.2%)
Someone in the PLO... who somehow had some polonium
2 (8.3%)
Nobody. He just ate some radioactive baba ghanoush.
7 (29.2%)

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DGuller

#15
November 09, 2013, 09:16:51 PM
Quote from: Fate on November 09, 2013, 05:09:36 PM
They're still keeping Sharon alive? I always thought he died in 2006. Jesus christ. That's some fucked up shit.
It always shocked me how poorly cared for Sharon was before his major stroke.  This was the leader of the country, and yet his entourage was completely unprepared for a medical emergency and squandered vast amounts of valuable time when it was clear he was in trouble.  Now he's just alive enough that you can't pull the plug on him.

Siege

#16
November 11, 2013, 02:32:05 AM
Old knews.

Fat Boi let Arraphag live, an we all peid the price.


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Viking

#17
November 11, 2013, 05:02:58 AM
Quote from: DGuller on November 09, 2013, 09:16:51 PM
Quote from: Fate on November 09, 2013, 05:09:36 PM
They're still keeping Sharon alive? I always thought he died in 2006. Jesus christ. That's some fucked up shit.
It always shocked me how poorly cared for Sharon was before his major stroke.  This was the leader of the country, and yet his entourage was completely unprepared for a medical emergency and squandered vast amounts of valuable time when it was clear he was in trouble.  Now he's just alive enough that you can't pull the plug on him.

Presumably Sharon is no longer around to object to treatment at the time. He doesn't seem to have been the kind of guy who listened to his doctor telling him to lose weight.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

jimmy olsen

#18
November 11, 2013, 08:52:02 AM
Seems like Sharon's the kind of guy who have killed Arafat in a much more obvious and explosive way if he wanted him dead (at that particular time).
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Viking

#19
November 11, 2013, 09:09:35 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 11, 2013, 08:52:02 AM
Seems like Sharon's the kind of guy who have killed Arafat in a much more obvious and explosive way if he wanted him dead (at that particular time).

+1

He'd probably run his re-election campaign based on the slogan "Vote Arik, he killed Arafat"
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Sheilbh

#20
November 11, 2013, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 11, 2013, 08:52:02 AM
Seems like Sharon's the kind of guy who have killed Arafat in a much more obvious and explosive way if he wanted him dead (at that particular time).
He did try in 1982. As the article says Arafat estimated Sharon had tried to kill him 13 times. Sharon didn't give a number, but just said it had been the policy of Israeli governments for years.

We don't know. Arafat may have died of natural causes. He had numerous enemies who would want him dead. But it's not implausible that maybe Sharon succeeded at last.

As I say I can't work out the cui bono but I also can't think of many more determined and dogged enemies to have.
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Ed Anger

#21
November 11, 2013, 09:15:12 AM
Sharon: the Cobra Commander of assainations.
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Viking

#22
November 11, 2013, 09:18:58 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 11, 2013, 09:13:40 AM
As I say I can't work out the cui bono but I also can't think of many more determined and dogged enemies to have.

I'm reasonably certain that pretty much everybody with any relation to mid east politics has wanted arafat dead at some time, with the exception of western pro-pals.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Viking

#23
November 11, 2013, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 11, 2013, 09:15:12 AM
Sharon: the Cobra Commander of assainations.

Well, this suggests that the numerous failures to attack Castro may not be due to incompetence or idiocy.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Malthus

#24
November 11, 2013, 11:06:18 AM
Assuming that Arafat was wacked with polonium, I assume it was the Ruskies helping out the Syrians. Polonium poisioning is a Russian MO, they were poisioning people all over the place with that shit in that era.

Moreover, accordong to Al Jezeera, the Russian team investigating this incident was pressured by the Russian gov't to not find anything.
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Admiral Yi

#25
November 11, 2013, 11:11:58 AM
i don't see what Russia had to gain.

I figure Hamas/Iran 80%, israel 20%.

Malthus

#26
November 11, 2013, 11:14:04 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 11, 2013, 11:11:58 AM
i don't see what Russia had to gain.

I figure Hamas/Iran 80%, israel 20%.

Nothing, other than influence over the Syrians. Same reason they give the Syrians weapons and run interference for them at the UN.
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Admiral Yi

#27
November 11, 2013, 11:15:43 AM
Quote from: Malthus on November 11, 2013, 11:14:04 AM
Nothing, other than influence over the Syrians. Same reason they give the Syrians weapons and run interference for them at the UN.

I don't follow.

Viking

#28
November 11, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 11, 2013, 11:15:43 AM
Quote from: Malthus on November 11, 2013, 11:14:04 AM
Nothing, other than influence over the Syrians. Same reason they give the Syrians weapons and run interference for them at the UN.

I don't follow.

Well, they are simply making whatever the west is trying to do more difficult and supporting any allies they might have in doing so. Tarbalus gives them a chance to troll and interfere in politcs all over the med. Syria gives them a chance to troll and interfere in the mid east. Supporting whoever opposes whoever the west supports and giving them cover in the UN even if they oppose their goals just ends up wasting western political will on useless and minor tasks.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Admiral Yi

#29
November 11, 2013, 11:30:36 AM
Quote from: Viking on November 11, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
Well, they are simply making whatever the west is trying to do more difficult and supporting any allies they might have in doing so. Tarbalus gives them a chance to troll and interfere in politcs all over the med. Syria gives them a chance to troll and interfere in the mid east. Supporting whoever opposes whoever the west supports and giving them cover in the UN even if they oppose their goals just ends up wasting western political will on useless and minor tasks.

Not that I necessarily agree with your analysis of Russian foreign policy, but how did Arafat's death fuck up the West's plans for the Middle East?
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