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Started by The Minsky Moment, November 06, 2013, 02:06:33 PM

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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: The Larch on March 13, 2015, 04:08:41 PM


The "we will set the refugees loose on you if you don't agree" spiel was IIRC by the Defence minister, which does not belong to Syriza but to their right wing nationalist coalition partners.

Somehow I doubt that the economic and social policies of that party are about liberalisation of the market and responsibilisation of the individual, in which case we can wonder if many of these so-called right-wing parties are really right-wing.

The Larch

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on March 14, 2015, 01:24:48 PM
Quote from: The Larch on March 13, 2015, 04:08:41 PM
The "we will set the refugees loose on you if you don't agree" spiel was IIRC by the Defence minister, which does not belong to Syriza but to their right wing nationalist coalition partners.

Somehow I doubt that the economic and social policies of that party are about liberalisation of the market and responsibilisation of the individual, in which case we can wonder if many of these so-called right-wing parties are really right-wing.

It's these guys, you label them yourself if you don't like my clasification: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Greeks

They're an euroskeptic and populist splinter group from New Democracy, the main right wing Greek party.

Tonitrus

The Greeks should be calling for reparations from Turkey for the conquest of Constantinople.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: The Larch on March 14, 2015, 07:07:44 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on March 14, 2015, 01:24:48 PM
Quote from: The Larch on March 13, 2015, 04:08:41 PM
The "we will set the refugees loose on you if you don't agree" spiel was IIRC by the Defence minister, which does not belong to Syriza but to their right wing nationalist coalition partners.

Somehow I doubt that the economic and social policies of that party are about liberalisation of the market and responsibilisation of the individual, in which case we can wonder if many of these so-called right-wing parties are really right-wing.

It's these guys, you label them yourself if you don't like my clasification: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Greeks

They're an euroskeptic and populist splinter group from New Democracy, the main right wing Greek party.

it's hardly your classification given that the classicification is the result from the fucked-up situation that was WW2 where two parties that wanted to establish their version of the Workers' Paradise(tm) duked it out with a third party (which wasn't located on the left of the Workers' Paradise scale of placing parties) leading to one of the first two being labeled "right" and the other "left". Probably the only genuine victory of the Left: having labeled one type of leftism as rightism while portraying the equally rotten other version of Leftism as true Leftism. A nice sample of succesfull framing.

doesn't change the fact that I'm in agreement on the fact that this small party is odious, and very much so.

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Tonitrus on March 14, 2015, 07:20:53 PM
The Greeks should be calling for reparations from Turkey for the conquest of Constantinople.

Greece should be paying reparations to all of Alexander's conquest nations I guess.  :P
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Surely those fall on the artist formerly known as Macedonia.  :sleep:

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 15, 2015, 05:38:52 PM
Surely those fall on the artist formerly known as Macedonia.  :sleep:


FYROM  :ultra:


/greek
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Valmy

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 15, 2015, 04:44:47 PM
Greece should be paying reparations to all of Alexander's conquest nations I guess.  :P

I bet then they would suddenly change their tune on the 'Macedonia is Greek!' thing.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Syt

See, mono, this is a riot:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31938592

QuoteGermany riot in Frankfurt targets new ECB headquarters

Dozens of people have been hurt and some 350 people arrested as anti-austerity demonstrators clashed with police in the German city of Frankfurt.

Police cars were set alight and stones were thrown in a protest against the opening of a new base for the European Central Bank (ECB).

Violence broke out close to the city's Alte Oper concert hall hours before the building's official opening.

Thousands of "Blockupy" activists were due to take part in a rally.

Organisers were bringing a left-wing alliance of protesters from across Germany and the rest of Europe to voice their anger at the ECB's role in austerity measures in EU member states, most recently Greece.

Police set up a cordon of barbed wire outside the bank's new 185m (600ft) double-tower skyscraper, next to the River Main.

But hopes of a peaceful rally were dashed as clashes began early on Wednesday.

Tyres and rubbish bins were set alight and police responded with water cannon as firefighters complained they were unable to get to the fires to put them out.

Police spokeswoman Claudia Rogalski spoke of an "aggressive atmosphere".

The ECB's new headquarters cost an estimated €1.3bn (£930m; $1.4bn) to build and is the new home for thousands of central bankers.





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garbon

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Best time of the year to be out of Frankfurt. :)
New ECB location is less central so there's less trouble. The old one was two stops away from the Central Station.

Sheilbh

Though, they don't seem to be blocking any roads...:huh:
Let's bomb Russia!

garbon

Quote from: Sheilbh on March 18, 2015, 07:34:51 AM
Though, they don't seem to be blocking any roads...:huh:

:hmm:

I mean I can't say on that 2nd one, but the 3rd photo seems to show people marching in the street. :unsure:
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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Valmy

Quote from: Sheilbh on March 18, 2015, 07:34:51 AM
Though, they don't seem to be blocking any roads...:huh:

It kind of looks like they piled up a bunch of shit in the middle of the road and lit it on fire to me. That strikes me as a possible obstacle on German Mono's commute.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."