11 counties to vote on seceding from Colorado because it's too liberal

[OttoVonBismarck]

I don't see how it wasn't, the Constitution prohibits dividing States without the consent of the State involved. Right there in Article IV of the Constitution. Virginia never approved the splitting off of the western counties.

I believe that Virginia did approve, post-war.

Yes, but only in the sense that if a man holds a gun to my head and asks for my wallet I "give" it to him.

As a condition for Virginia to receive Congressional representation in 1869, the U.S. Congress set as a condition for their readmission to legislative representation they accept all of the acts taken to make West Virginia a State during the war. Even with that coerced approval, I'd question the legality of the initial act in 1863 recognizing West Virginia. Since that initial act clearly goes against the Constitution, I don't see how something that is required before said act could happen could be accepted legally six years after the fact.

[PDH]

Sorry, when you are in rebellion all the shit that is done to you is deserved.

[garbon]

Sorry, when you are in rebellion all the shit that is done to you is deserved.

Though I think I'd add something about your rebellion being unjustified because of suspect motives. After all, there are times when rebellion is justified.

[PDH]

Sorry, when you are in rebellion all the shit that is done to you is deserved.

Though I think I'd add something about your rebellion being unjustified because of suspect motives. After all, there are times when rebellion is justified.

Pffft, when it is justified it is a fight for freedom.

[garbon]

Sorry, when you are in rebellion all the shit that is done to you is deserved.

Though I think I'd add something about your rebellion being unjustified because of suspect motives. After all, there are times when rebellion is justified.

Pffft, when it is justified it is a fight for freedom.

Well yes. I wasn't trying to say the Civil War was one of those times.

[dps]

I don't see how it wasn't, the Constitution prohibits dividing States without the consent of the State involved. Right there in Article IV of the Constitution. Virginia never approved the splitting off of the western counties.

I believe that Virginia did approve, post-war.

Yes, but only in the sense that if a man holds a gun to my head and asks for my wallet I "give" it to him.

As a condition for Virginia to receive Congressional representation in 1869, the U.S. Congress set as a condition for their readmission to legislative representation they accept all of the acts taken to make West Virginia a State during the war. Even with that coerced approval, I'd question the legality of the initial act in 1863 recognizing West Virginia. Since that initial act clearly goes against the Constitution, I don't see how something that is required before said act could happen could be accepted legally six years after the fact.

Technically, there was a pro-Union alternate Virginia state government formed in 1861 that gave its consent.

[Valmy]

Good for them. Colorado used to have a good balance of hippies and normal people. Now there are way too many hippies that have moved in.

Yeah crazy Lettowist idiocy is what normal people do.

[Razgovory]

Good for them. Colorado used to have a good balance of hippies and normal people. Now there are way too many hippies that have moved in.

Yeah crazy Lettowist idiocy is what normal people do.

Derspeiss will be more then happy to send over some taxpayer money when their two senators demand massive amounts of federal money to keep their constituents uneconomic farms afloat.

[dps]

Good for them. Colorado used to have a good balance of hippies and normal people. Now there are way too many hippies that have moved in.

Yeah crazy Lettowist idiocy is what normal people do.

Derspeiss will be more then happy to send over some taxpayer money when their two senators demand massive amounts of federal money to keep their constituents uneconomic farms afloat.

Farm subsidies.  Yuck.

[CountDeMoney]

Farm subsidies.  Yay!

[Ed Anger]

YAY! Give me mah corn checks.

[CountDeMoney]

lulz, Corn Chex.

[Valmy]

The farm subsidies are awesome.  One of those wonderful symbols of US political decadence.  A policy that everybody hates left and right...but are completely unwilling to actually get rid of.  Sort of like the minting of pennies.

[Razgovory]

Good for them. Colorado used to have a good balance of hippies and normal people. Now there are way too many hippies that have moved in.

Yeah crazy Lettowist idiocy is what normal people do.

Derspeiss will be more then happy to send over some taxpayer money when their two senators demand massive amounts of federal money to keep their constituents uneconomic farms afloat.

Farm subsidies.  Yuck.

More then that.  They rely on the rest of Colorado for their infrastructure one of their complaints was that they weren't getting enough funding.  If they were their own state they would be requesting their infrastructure be payed for by the feds. Large rural areas with small populations can't build their own infrastructure.

[Josquius]

They bristle at gun control laws and marijuana shops, green energy policies and steps to embrace gay marriage and illegal immigrants.

So basically they have no issue with anything genuinely dodgy (except maybe the immigrants issue) and instead merely hate all the good points about the left?
Yeah, my respect for them: zero.