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Started by Jacob, September 25, 2013, 12:59:55 PM

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What's the impact of Obamacare for you (and your family)? Assuming it doesn't get defunded or delayed, of course...

I live in a state that's embracing Obamacare and it looks like I'm set for cheaper and/or better healthcare.
9 (14.1%)
I live in a state that's embracing Obamacare and it looks like I'm going to be paying more and/or get worse coverage.
5 (7.8%)
I live in a state that's embracing Obamacare and it looks like I'm largely unaffected by Obamacare, other than the effects of the general political theatre.
6 (9.4%)
My state is embracing Obamacare, but I have no clue how it will impact me personally.
1 (1.6%)
I live in a state that's rejecting Obamacare and it looks like I'm set for cheaper and/or better healthcare.
0 (0%)
I live in a state that's rejecting Obamacare and it looks like I'm going to be paying more and/or get worse coverage.
1 (1.6%)
I live in a state that's rejecting Obamacare and it looks like I'm largely unaffected by Obamacare, other than the effects of the general political theatre.
7 (10.9%)
My state is rejecting Obamacare and I have no idea how Obamacare is going to impact me.
1 (1.6%)
The American health care system doesn't affect me, but I'm watching how the whole thing plays out with interest.
20 (31.3%)
The American health care system doesn't affect me and frankly I don't care.
8 (12.5%)
Some other option because the previous 10 were not enough...
6 (9.4%)

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derspiess

#855
November 21, 2013, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: Berkut on November 21, 2013, 11:07:14 AM
So 55% think it should be kept in some form or another. Do those numbers come as a surprise?

Enough from you, Socialist.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

The Minsky Moment

#856
November 21, 2013, 11:36:43 AM
31% approval is actually pretty high for a program that seems destined to become a classic case study on botched policy implementation.
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The Brain

#857
November 21, 2013, 11:37:02 AM
Today's Metro said Obamacare is a failure.
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Kleves

#858
November 21, 2013, 11:37:49 AM
Quote from: Berkut on November 21, 2013, 11:07:14 AM
So 55% think it should be kept in some form or another.
And it's not really damning that people want to see some changes made; I bet Obama has changes he would make at this point too.
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

derspiess

#859
November 21, 2013, 11:47:34 AM
Quote from: Kleves on November 21, 2013, 11:37:49 AM
Quote from: Berkut on November 21, 2013, 11:07:14 AM
So 55% think it should be kept in some form or another.
And it's not really damning that people want to see some changes made; I bet Obama has changes he would make at this point too.

Well, he does make changes.  He pretty much does whatever he wants to with it.  But I don't think they are changes most commoners would make.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

#860
November 21, 2013, 03:51:19 PM
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Admiral Yi

#861
November 21, 2013, 03:58:09 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 21, 2013, 11:36:43 AM
31% approval is actually pretty high for a program that seems destined to become a classic case study on botched policy implementation.

31% is painfully low for a nation that traditionally has valued wide consensus when imposing drastic changes.

The Minsky Moment

#862
November 21, 2013, 04:12:02 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 21, 2013, 03:58:09 PM
31% is painfully low for a nation that traditionally has valued wide consensus when imposing drastic changes.

There was wide consensus on civil rights?  The New Deal?  Reaganomics?
hard to think of historical drastic change in US history that had wide consensus.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Admiral Yi

#863
November 21, 2013, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 21, 2013, 04:12:02 PM
There was wide consensus on civil rights?  The New Deal?  Reaganomics?
hard to think of historical drastic change in US history that had wide consensus.

I would say very much yes to the New Deal.  Didn't FDR slaughter Adlai 3 times? Pretty much yes to Civil Rights.  Only objectors were southern Democrats. 

Not sure what you mean by Reagonomics.

Razgovory

#864
November 21, 2013, 04:31:25 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 21, 2013, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 21, 2013, 04:12:02 PM
There was wide consensus on civil rights?  The New Deal?  Reaganomics?
hard to think of historical drastic change in US history that had wide consensus.

I would say very much yes to the New Deal.  Didn't FDR slaughter Adlai 3 times? Pretty much yes to Civil Rights.  Only objectors were southern Democrats. 

Not sure what you mean by Reagonomics.

Oh Yi, such a kidder.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

#866
November 21, 2013, 05:02:08 PM
Yi looks like he got an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model Air Rifle.
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Razgovory

#867
November 21, 2013, 05:31:25 PM
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#868
November 21, 2013, 05:31:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 21, 2013, 05:31:25 PM
You really need to stop doing that.

No I don't.

11B4V

#869
November 21, 2013, 06:16:21 PM
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