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Started by Jacob, September 25, 2013, 12:59:55 PM

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What's the impact of Obamacare for you (and your family)? Assuming it doesn't get defunded or delayed, of course...

I live in a state that's embracing Obamacare and it looks like I'm set for cheaper and/or better healthcare.
9 (14.1%)
I live in a state that's embracing Obamacare and it looks like I'm going to be paying more and/or get worse coverage.
5 (7.8%)
I live in a state that's embracing Obamacare and it looks like I'm largely unaffected by Obamacare, other than the effects of the general political theatre.
6 (9.4%)
My state is embracing Obamacare, but I have no clue how it will impact me personally.
1 (1.6%)
I live in a state that's rejecting Obamacare and it looks like I'm set for cheaper and/or better healthcare.
0 (0%)
I live in a state that's rejecting Obamacare and it looks like I'm going to be paying more and/or get worse coverage.
1 (1.6%)
I live in a state that's rejecting Obamacare and it looks like I'm largely unaffected by Obamacare, other than the effects of the general political theatre.
7 (10.9%)
My state is rejecting Obamacare and I have no idea how Obamacare is going to impact me.
1 (1.6%)
The American health care system doesn't affect me, but I'm watching how the whole thing plays out with interest.
20 (31.3%)
The American health care system doesn't affect me and frankly I don't care.
8 (12.5%)
Some other option because the previous 10 were not enough...
6 (9.4%)

Total Members Voted: 63

Grey Fox

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Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: fhdz on November 20, 2013, 08:20:25 PM
I think we should ban advertising on all prescription drugs.

The idea is that your doctor is supposed to make an evidence-based diagnosis and create a prescription, not that Johnny Layman is supposed to go "hey, I'm a crazy fucker, maybe I should ask my doc about This Brand Name Anti-Crazy Pill."

Interesting and relevant: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/low-t-the-triumph-of-marketing-over-science/

Ed Anger

Quote from: derspiess on November 27, 2013, 09:35:08 AM
I can't speak for Ed, but the broken promise is what destroyed Obama's credibility in my eyes :(

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/11/27/obama_approval_hits_all-time_low_in_ohio_120797.html

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derspiess

Quote from: Ed Anger on November 27, 2013, 02:00:30 PM
Otherwise, he is a huge disappointment.

He's more or less lived up to my expectations, actually.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on November 27, 2013, 02:05:54 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 27, 2013, 02:00:30 PM
Otherwise, he is a huge disappointment.

He's more or less lived up to my expectations, actually.

Eh I doubt that.  I seem to recall you actually thought he was a left winger of some sort rather than a complete non-entity who would barely shake the boat at all.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Valmy on November 27, 2013, 02:23:31 PM
Eh I doubt that.  I seem to recall you actually thought he was a left winger of some sort rather than a complete non-entity who would barely shake the boat at all.

He has been limited by a GOP controlled House since his first midterm.  I think it's safe to say that had he been given a more accomodating congress he would have been more active.

Iormlund

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 20, 2013, 06:45:47 PM
Quote from: Zanza on November 20, 2013, 02:52:01 PM
Just saw this in an OECD report ... American exceptionalism:

Question is: what happens when you adjust for the usually high level of deaths by accident and violence in the US?
These deaths tend to be uncorrelated or even reverse correlated from age and thus tend to hit life expectancy, but they aren't really addressable by the health care delivery system.

I have seen studies that suggest that the US health care system does a very good job of extending life span and quality among similarly situated people who have various kinds of significant ailments and conditions.  OTOH some public health and extension of basic care across the population may lag behind the leaders.

Health stats in the US by county.

Baltimore males live 12 years less than those a few miles away in Howard County.

Only a handful counties manage to reach Spanish average life expectancy, places like Marin County where income is several times higher than in Spain.

Razgovory

#908
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on November 27, 2013, 11:06:37 AM
That I'm less conservative than my grandfather who was a Democrat?

Wallace voter?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

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11B4V

#912
Continuing the trend.

Quote
Obama Delays Health Care Site for Small Businesses
(Newser) – The long-promised small-business portal at HealthCare.gov will be launching in November—November 2014, that is. The Obama administration had promised that the site, which was originally slated to open back in October, would launch by the end of this month, but Health and Human Services officials today confirmed for the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal that it wouldn't be ready for a full year.

Small businesses will still be able to get coverage and apply for tax credits, and they'll be able to at least see rates on the site starting on Dec. 1. But to actually buy what they see, they'll have to buy it off-line the old fashioned way. It's the latest embarrassing digital setback for the health care rollout, and Republicans were quick to pounce. "If small firms failed to provide services this frequently, they would be fired," says one House Republican.

http://www.newser.com/story/178295/obama-delays-health-care-site-for-small-businesses.html
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"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

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derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on November 27, 2013, 02:23:31 PM
Eh I doubt that.  I seem to recall you actually thought he was a left winger of some sort rather than a complete non-entity who would barely shake the boat at all.

He is a left-winger.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall