Obamacare and you

[CountDeMoney]

That a 65 y/o woman doesnt think she needs, maternity and newborn care, and pediatric services, with oral and vision. But Obamacare mandates it. What a fucking joke.

That a 65 year old woman thinks she still needs to buy for-profit insurance with those mandated coverages when she already qualifies for Medicare, she deserves to pay more anyway.   

You get the point. Why cant you choose? Your boy lied Seedy, LIED.

I'll laugh my ass off if Hillary gets in there and overhauls it for the better.

Seriously, dude?  Of all the shit that's bouncing off your echo chamber of a FOX media bubble, this example is the one you're going to go with?

[11B4V]

That a 65 y/o woman doesnt think she needs, maternity and newborn care, and pediatric services, with oral and vision. But Obamacare mandates it. What a fucking joke.

That a 65 year old woman thinks she still needs to buy for-profit insurance with those mandated coverages when she already qualifies for Medicare, she deserves to pay more anyway.   

You get the point. Why cant you choose? Your boy lied Seedy, LIED.

I'll laugh my ass off if Hillary gets in there and overhauls it for the better.

Seriously, dude?  Of all the shit that's bouncing off your echo chamber of a FOX media bubble, this example is the one you're going to go with?

That the Prez lied? You bet, because he did. You Obama worshipers cant spin that.

We'll see what 2014 mid-terms bring, Sparky. 

[garbon]

That a 65 y/o woman doesnt think she needs, maternity and newborn care, and pediatric services, with oral and vision. But Obamacare mandates it. What a fucking joke.

That a 65 year old woman thinks she still needs to buy for-profit insurance with those mandated coverages when she already qualifies for Medicare, she deserves to pay more anyway.   

True. How dare she not suckle on the gov't teat!

Who's teat do you suck?

I wish I had a teat.

[CountDeMoney]

That the Prez lied? You bet, because he did. You Obama worshipers cant spin that.

We'll see what 2014 mid-terms bring, Sparky.

No, Muttski;  your example of some 65 year old women forced to buy coverage with mandated neo-natal care when she's already qualified for Medicare.  I mean, if that's the sort of "choice" example you're going with, that's a poor one.

Simply bleating OBAMA LIED PIPPLE DIED over and over again in this thread doesn't make any points, other than the one on the top of your head.

[11B4V]

No, Muttski;  your example of some 65 year old women forced to buy coverage with mandated neo-natal care when she's already qualified for Medicare.  I mean, if that's the sort of "choice" example you're going with, that's a poor one.

Granted, change that to what I posted above. That shitholes your argument. I'll put a 20 spot that

1. They will pass something that allows people to keep their current plans if they want.

2. Allow the plan to be tailor made to the individual. (IOW, if you dont need the pediatric shit you can dump it.)

Care to make that bet????

Simply bleating OBAMA LIED PIPPLE DIED over and over again in this thread doesn't make any points, other than the one on the top of your head.

Argue that he didnt. 

[CountDeMoney]

When he says he has never traded arms for hostages' healthcare coverage, I believe him.

[11B4V]

When he says he has never traded arms for hostages' healthcare coverage, I believe him.

Take the bet.

[merithyn]

I'll laugh my ass off if Hillary gets in there and overhauls it for the better.

How will she manage that with the House owned by the Republicans, and little chance of that changing due to gerry-mandering? They're the reason the ACA looks the way it does right now, and it's not because of Obama.

[merithyn]

Granted, change that to what I posted above. That shitholes your argument. I'll put a 20 spot that

1. They will pass something that allows people to keep their current plans if they want.

2. Allow the plan to be tailor made to the individual. (IOW, if you dont need the pediatric shit you can dump it.)

Care to make that bet????

They can't. There's no way that it will be affordable for anyone if it's piece-mealed like that.

[11B4V]

I'll laugh my ass off if Hillary gets in there and overhauls it for the better.

How will she manage that with the House owned by the Republicans, and little chance of that changing due to gerry-mandering? They're the reason the ACA looks the way it does right now, and it's not because of Obama.

Bullshit

[11B4V]

Granted, change that to what I posted above. That shitholes your argument. I'll put a 20 spot that

1. They will pass something that allows people to keep their current plans if they want.

2. Allow the plan to be tailor made to the individual. (IOW, if you dont need the pediatric shit you can dump it.)

Care to make that bet????

They can't. There's no way that it will be affordable for anyone if it's piece-mealed like that.

Affordable????

[merithyn]

How will she manage that with the House owned by the Republicans, and little chance of that changing due to gerry-mandering? They're the reason the ACA looks the way it does right now, and it's not because of Obama.

Bullshit

Not really. And you're not answering the other questions.

They can't. There's no way that it will be affordable for anyone if it's piece-mealed like that.

Affordable????

Yes, affordable. The reality is that most people won't have to pay more for insurance under the ACA. If people were allowed to only select via the a la cart method, it wouldn't be at all.

[Sheilbh]

I'll laugh my ass off if Hillary gets in there and overhauls it for the better.

Yeah, that'd show him

[KRonn]

It would seem that the ACA relies on many people losing their health care and going into the Federal exchanges in order to pay for it all. Administration info being released recently shows that they expect 90 million people to lose coverage and other estimates are higher. I think that's when the employer mandate kicks in and employer plans are lost, or what ever else causes that. The admin knew this as early as 2010, from internal memos/documents.

The Dems are panicked over this so you know there are huge problems, and I think this is only the tip of the iceberg.

I didn't think it would be this messed up but the reports coming out now look bad and the future outlook seems even worse. 

As for the low enrollment so far, ACA detractors keep touting the low numbers but that will change over time. It's too early but I think the Obama admin was expecting more to sign up by now, even if the web site worked. I think that was over zealous thinking. Takes time.

[Admiral Yi]

That number sounds suspiciously similar to the total number of uninsured people in America K.