The Government Shutdown Countdown Lowdown MEGATHREAD

Started by CountDeMoney, September 17, 2013, 09:09:20 PM

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grumbler

Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2013, 09:39:43 AM
I don't disagree with the sentiment/statement, but do take issue with the tone/language. I don't think it becoming of a congressman to say things like "they fuckin' lost."

Disagree.  The use of the language is both deliberate and necessary.  If he had said "'til the douche-bags realize they fuckin' lost," I would agree with you, but a single well-placed expletive works perfectly in this case.
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garbon

Quote from: grumbler on October 08, 2013, 09:44:16 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2013, 09:39:43 AM
I don't disagree with the sentiment/statement, but do take issue with the tone/language. I don't think it becoming of a congressman to say things like "they fuckin' lost."

Disagree.  The use of the language is both deliberate and necessary.  If he had said "'til the douche-bags realize they fuckin' lost," I would agree with you, but a single well-placed expletive works perfectly in this case.

Whereas I find it inappropriate. :)
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DGuller

Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2013, 09:45:36 AM
Quote from: grumbler on October 08, 2013, 09:44:16 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2013, 09:39:43 AM
I don't disagree with the sentiment/statement, but do take issue with the tone/language. I don't think it becoming of a congressman to say things like "they fuckin' lost."

Disagree.  The use of the language is both deliberate and necessary.  If he had said "'til the douche-bags realize they fuckin' lost," I would agree with you, but a single well-placed expletive works perfectly in this case.

Whereas I find it inappropriate. :)
:o No shit.

grumbler

Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2013, 09:45:36 AM
Whereas I find it inappropriate. :) 

Don't worry:  any day now, one of your tribemen will say something like that, and your reservations about the word will disappear like magic.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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garbon

Quote from: grumbler on October 08, 2013, 09:50:23 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2013, 09:45:36 AM
Whereas I find it inappropriate. :) 

Don't worry:  any day now, one of your tribemen will say something like that, and your reservations about the word will disappear like magic.

Probably true. I don't think I would take as strong an issue if Hil said something like that. But then, she's a private citizen.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

I'm not sure I understand this bit from Obama in his most recent remarks.

QuoteIf Republicans reopen the government, then "I will not eliminate any topic of conversation" in broader negotiations about America's finances, he said.

I understand why Obama & Dems can't negotiate now but at the same time, that's hardly encouraging for Republicans to give up now as they'll have little to no leverage later if they go home with their tails behind their legs.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Jacob

Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2013, 02:23:57 PMI understand why Obama & Dems can't negotiate now but at the same time, that's hardly encouraging for Republicans to give up now as they'll have little to no leverage later if they go home with their tails behind their legs.

Some sort of exit strategy from the Republicans would've been good, yeah.

garbon

Quote from: Jacob on October 08, 2013, 02:40:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2013, 02:23:57 PMI understand why Obama & Dems can't negotiate now but at the same time, that's hardly encouraging for Republicans to give up now as they'll have little to no leverage later if they go home with their tails behind their legs.

Some sort of exit strategy from the Republicans would've been good, yeah.

Yeah but then his statement was made knowing full well and good that one didn't exist.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Jacob

Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2013, 02:45:31 PMYeah but then his statement was made knowing full well and good that one didn't exist.

Yeah. The Republicans fucked this up good.

crazy canuck

Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2013, 02:45:31 PM
Quote from: Jacob on October 08, 2013, 02:40:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2013, 02:23:57 PMI understand why Obama & Dems can't negotiate now but at the same time, that's hardly encouraging for Republicans to give up now as they'll have little to no leverage later if they go home with their tails behind their legs.

Some sort of exit strategy from the Republicans would've been good, yeah.

Yeah but then his statement was made knowing full well and good that one didn't exist.

Probably something the Republicans should have thought of before they went down this road.

grumbler

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 08, 2013, 03:38:01 PM
Probably something the Republicans should have thought of before they went down this road.

Yeah, I think the right were so convinced they would enjoy the scenery that they didn't think about where the road would lead.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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Syt

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Syt

And courtesy of Gov. Jan Brewer's facebook page:

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

derspiess

Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2013, 02:23:57 PM
I'm not sure I understand this bit from Obama in his most recent remarks.

QuoteIf Republicans reopen the government, then "I will not eliminate any topic of conversation" in broader negotiations about America's finances, he said.

I understand why Obama & Dems can't negotiate now but at the same time, that's hardly encouraging for Republicans to give up now as they'll have little to no leverage later if they go home with their tails behind their legs.

Of course.
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Valmy

Quote from: Syt on October 09, 2013, 02:30:07 AM
And courtesy of Gov. Jan Brewer's facebook page:



Well obviously this just proves Obama right.  A fence cannot even stop a few 90 year olds.
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