The Government Shutdown Countdown Lowdown MEGATHREAD

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Syt

#810
October 05, 2013, 11:39:55 PM
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CountDeMoney

#811
October 05, 2013, 11:45:02 PM
lol, I like Megyn Kelly and the other League of German Maidens blondes on Fox.

Ideologue

#812
October 05, 2013, 11:49:12 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 05, 2013, 11:38:39 PM
OK, cute, transvestite.

My guess was robot.
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CountDeMoney

#813
October 05, 2013, 11:50:55 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 05, 2013, 11:39:55 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/05/i-am-obamacare-_n_4046470.html

Dude, that so not flies here.  They'd get more sympathy if they were rape victims.

jimmy olsen

#814
October 06, 2013, 12:16:01 AM Last Edit: October 06, 2013, 12:22:28 AM by jimmy olsen
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 05, 2013, 08:22:34 PM
Both of those are emotions and I get that. What I mean is what's the political upside? What benefits do they want to accrue?

This is why I struggle with the GOP right now. I don't mind parties being partisan because they believe their vision is necessary and right and they want to win. I'm baffled by a party that doesn't seem to even act in its own best interests.

Look the last 11 months have been about the lame duckification of Obama. His ebbing authority. Now it's Republican extremism and civil war - and how much everyone hates Ted Cruz. I can't work out why they'd do that. How they wanted to get from shutdown/potential default to profit.

It's why I think of Labour in the 80s because that's the only other example I can think of.
I think that the article I posted here explains it really well. The Tea Party really believes Obama and Obamacare will destroy the country and they want to resist as strongly as possible no matter the political consequences. The GOP leadership doesn't believe this but is terrified that their constituents do and so are to afraid to offer resistance to Tea Party Caucus.

http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,10462.msg649554.html#msg649554

They'll probably going to need an extended time out of power like Labor did in the 80s/early 90s to adjust and change.
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11B4V

#815
October 06, 2013, 01:00:36 AM
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Razgovory

#816
October 06, 2013, 01:03:37 AM
Guess they won't have to deal with the death panels.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

11B4V

#817
October 06, 2013, 01:10:48 AM
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

DGuller

#818
October 06, 2013, 01:15:41 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 05, 2013, 11:23:38 PM
This is a systemic problem, not one for which either party's more to blame than the other.  The conservatives keep trying to put more and more conservative congressmen into office, and the liberals keep trying to put more and more liberal congressmen into office.  We pluck the strongest ideologues to campaign against each other and then wonder why they're unable to work with counterparts from the other side.
:bleeding:

This I think highlights the real problem.  The unwillingness or inability to pass judgment, and select politicians accordingly.  Extremists are not punished, because really, both sides are at fault.  We get the government we deserve.

DGuller

#819
October 06, 2013, 01:17:50 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 05, 2013, 11:39:55 PM

Yeah, people getting surgeries, that would really balance the budget.  :rolleyes:

The Brain

#820
October 06, 2013, 02:51:07 AM
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Eddie Teach

#821
October 06, 2013, 03:08:08 AM
Quote from: The Brain on October 06, 2013, 02:51:07 AM
Whiteface is incredibly racist.

Lighten up.  :rolleyes:
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The Brain

#822
October 06, 2013, 03:21:38 AM
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Viking

#823
October 06, 2013, 05:12:21 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 06, 2013, 01:00:36 AM


Somebody explain to me if I'm wrong.

But... but these people aren't being forced to buy health insurance because they already have it.
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First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Viking

#824
October 06, 2013, 05:32:19 AM
Quote from: Viking on October 05, 2013, 10:47:04 PM
All the news and analysis sources that I take seriously are unanimous in agreement that the republicans are to blame for the shut down. When everybody agrees on something I get concerned about the diversity of my information sources. Is there any serious source of news or analysis that doesn't blame the republicans for the shutdown?

Stop trying to be funny people, is there any?
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.
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