The Government Shutdown Countdown Lowdown MEGATHREAD

[frunk]

It seems to me to be built in to the US political system.  Every year the spending for nonentitlement spending has to be agreed to by both houses of Congress.

Is there any precedent where the budget was held up past the deadline in order to repeal a previously passed piece of legislation, rather than creating a separate bill to explicitly repeal it?

[crazy canuck]

It seems to me to be built in to the US political system.  Every year the spending for nonentitlement spending has to be agreed to by both houses of Congress.

Is there any precedent where the budget was held up past the deadline in order to repeal a previously passed piece of legislation, rather than creating a separate bill to explicitly repeal it?

I was wondering that myself.

[Admiral Yi]

Is there any precedent where the budget was held up past the deadline in order to repeal a previously passed piece of legislation, rather than creating a separate bill to explicitly repeal it?

There is no repeal of Obamacare.  It's still the law of the land.

And I assume you're aware that Republicans have proposed separate funding bills for things like Interior and Veterans and told that Democrats will vote those down.

[garbon]

Here's a history of reasons, haven't looked at it yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdown_in_the_United_States

[Jacob]

It was. You said that they have no other choice.  They do, it just isn't palatable.

I forgot that I should have written several paragraphs as my initial reply.

I was implying that your understatement made your suggestion border on the ludicrous.

[Ideologue]

I prefer to be ludicrous by overstatement.

[Razgovory]

At what point will Republicans simply admit defeat turn their attention elsewhere?

[garbon]

It was. You said that they have no other choice.  They do, it just isn't palatable.

I forgot that I should have written several paragraphs as my initial reply.

I was implying that your understatement made your suggestion border on the ludicrous.

Sure, I can understand that you could hold such a point of view.

[grumbler]

Which would be 2 or 3 more times than I hear anyone else talk about her.

You're lucky, then.

My guess would be that it's not luck, but rather great prudence in the company Max keeps.  Michelle Obama is only even remotely interesting to those who wish to mock stalk her.

FYPFY

[Jacob]

Sure, I can understand that you could hold such a point of view.

See Ide? A liberal arts education, right there.

[frunk]

Is there any precedent where the budget was held up past the deadline in order to repeal a previously passed piece of legislation, rather than creating a separate bill to explicitly repeal it?

There is no repeal of Obamacare.  It's still the law of the land.

And I assume you're aware that Republicans have proposed separate funding bills for things like Interior and Veterans and told that Democrats will vote those down.

The initial threats were for repeal, it was gradually softened to delays in attempts to get it to work.

[Jacob]

The initial threats were for repeal, it was gradually softened to delays in attempts to get it to work.

"Delays", yes. "To get it to work", no.

As I understand it, if the individual mandate is delayed the whole edifice is likely to self-destruct. So a delay to the individual mandate is essentially a repeal.

[Admiral Yi]

I think he means get it to work in the sense of getting enough votes.

[Jacob]

I think he means get it to work in the sense of getting enough votes.

Asoka

[Phillip V]

My Army Reserve duty this weekend has been cancelled.