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Started by Razgovory, August 22, 2013, 08:21:48 PM

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Razgovory

Thanks guys.  It's really a period I know very little about.  I hope to remedy that.  Thank God for the internet.  I can order a 70 dollar book you wouldn't even be able to find in a one horse town like like Jefferson City less then 10 bucks.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Grinning_Colossus

You could presumably have gotten it through inter-library loan... you just wouldn't have known of its existence.

CKII has made me curious, too. All those Karlings.
Quis futuit ipsos fututores?

Agelastus

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 23, 2013, 03:03:41 PM
For military matters:
http://www.amazon.com/Early-Carolingian-Warfare-Prelude-Empire/dp/0812221443/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377288133&sr=8-1&keywords=bachrach+carolingian
On my wish list; haven't read yet, but he is supposed to be a specialist in this area.

He's also supposed to be controversial with ideas that would be considered "left field".

Admittedly, this was related to me by three different lecturers at King's College London over 15 years ago when I was doing a 10000 word dissertation on Carolingian warfare during the reign of Charlemagne; he may be considered orthodox now.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 23, 2013, 06:46:13 PM
What are the ref tags for minsky? You have a side gig?

Just looked up all the books I read that I could recall related to the subject.
Except the Bachrach one; I just remembered the name.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Razgovory

Got the first book in the mail today.  I realized that Minsky referenced it a few years back by it's French name.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Minsky Moment

Is that the Michel Rouche book?  My recollection is that book was bit heavier on the Merovingian side, although it might just be that was the part that stuck in my mind.  The Merovingians tend to be more interesting, in a HBO miniseries sort of way.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Razgovory

Nope the Feudal Transformation.  You were discussing something with Shelf, and he mentioned a theory and you asked if it was "La Mutation feodale"  It's certainly not for a novice though.  I have a decent grounding in Latin, and the middle ages but I still get lost sometimes.  It would help if a the authors defined a Latin term before using it.  They sometimes get around to explaining it.  For instance I know what Latrocinium means but I had to look up Vicarii.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Razgovory on September 03, 2013, 06:05:04 PM
Nope the Feudal Transformation.  You were discussing something with Shelf, and he mentioned a theory and you asked if it was "La Mutation feodale"  It's certainly not for a novice though.  I have a decent grounding in Latin, and the middle ages but I still get lost sometimes.  It would help if a the authors defined a Latin term before using it.  They sometimes get around to explaining it.  For instance I know what Latrocinium means but I had to look up Vicarii.

Knowing the Latin wouldn't necessarily help because the nature of the title changes changes over time and space - if a term is left untranslated, it is probably because it isn't really translatable without losing nuance.

BTW the Rouche book is pretty good "The Roots of Europe" ("Racines d'Europe").  Not sure if there is a an English translation.  There is a good discussion in there of tanistry.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson