Massive use of chemical weapons in Syria, 1,429 killed including 426 children

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Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 31, 2013, 08:06:59 AM
Quote from: Warspite on August 31, 2013, 04:22:09 AM
I agree that chemical weapons use is a dangerous crossing of an important red line that must be deterred and punished, but I don't agree that we should rush into action for the sake of credibilty without showing how they fit a strategy of ending the civil war.

Bu that's not the issue here.  We're talking about bombing the horse, not the cart.
But how do you shut the stable door ?
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CountDeMoney


CountDeMoney

President Obomba will be holding a public statement and remarks in the Rose Garden at 1:15pm today.
Confirmed that he will be conducting a "conference call" with Congress later today.

There's your Whore Powers Act right there.

11B4V

Quote from: Razgovory on August 31, 2013, 05:21:06 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 31, 2013, 01:13:55 AM
Quote from: Grallon on August 30, 2013, 08:01:35 PM
So my American friends - are you ready for yet another round in the the middle-eastern quagmire?  Obama should detonate a nuke high above Damascus - as a warning.



G.

He will do nothing.

I bet the admit the Obama administration will take some form of military action.  You wanna take that bet.

Has to be direct action. What you want to bet?

Obama is all bluster and his own party wont back him.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

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CountDeMoney

11Bravo takes his lead straight out of Teabagger Central Casting.

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CountDeMoney

LOL, like this is the President to seek Congressional approval for the War Powers Act.  Really?   :lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't worry, Mr. Cameron, looks like you've got a roommate now!

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Eddie Teach

France can't do much about this alone. Mali didn't have the Tsar propping it up.
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CountDeMoney

Meh, it's really not that big of a deal;  under the mechanisms WPA, the president is required to consult Congress per Section 3 but they can't bar him from using military force;  it's just that he's got 48 hours to inform them of the commencement of hostilities, and the clock for the 60 day limit begins.  Since there's no reason to believe it would go past 60 days, no fuss, no muss.
If Congress passes a resolution saying "Bad Obama, Bad", it won't look good, but it can't really stop him, either.


Razgovory

Quote from: 11B4V on August 31, 2013, 11:40:57 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 31, 2013, 05:21:06 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 31, 2013, 01:13:55 AM
Quote from: Grallon on August 30, 2013, 08:01:35 PM
So my American friends - are you ready for yet another round in the the middle-eastern quagmire?  Obama should detonate a nuke high above Damascus - as a warning.



G.

He will do nothing.

I bet the admit the Obama administration will take some form of military action.  You wanna take that bet.

Has to be direct action. What you want to bet?

Obama is all bluster and his own party wont back him.

Define "direct action"
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 31, 2013, 01:37:55 PM
Meh, it's really not that big of a deal;  under the mechanisms WPA, the president is required to consult Congress per Section 3 but they can't bar him from using military force;  it's just that he's got 48 hours to inform them of the commencement of hostilities, and the clock for the 60 day limit begins.  Since there's no reason to believe it would go past 60 days, no fuss, no muss.
If Congress passes a resolution saying "Bad Obama, Bad", it won't look good, but it can't really stop him, either.

It's a mistake to ask this congress.  He'll give them a platform and they'll go on about Benghazi, Obamacare, and Fast and Furious.  You'll never get them to shut up.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017