Massive use of chemical weapons in Syria, 1,429 killed including 426 children

[Razgovory]

A flight of stairs.  I don't know what the demands will be, but I imagine there will be some demands and if they are not fulfilled in a certain amount of time bombing will commence.  Do you think this is an impossible scenario?

I think it's a very strange scenario.  Our ostensible motivation for striking is something that has already happened.  As Max said, they can't bring the victims back to life.  Definitely not in 48 hours.

There was an Ultimatum for Libya, an ultimatum for Iraq and an ultimatum for Afghanistan.  It's just the way these things are done.

[Ed Anger]

Moar

[jimmy olsen]

[DGuller]

Moar

I think they're going to regret that monkey picture, even if they are Murdoch's trash paper.

[jimmy olsen]

Assad napalms a school playground 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-reports-of-napalmlike-bomb-attack-on-aleppo-playground-emerge-after-mps-vote-against-military-action-8790841.html

[Eddie Teach]

The good news is that Nicole Scherzinger is apparently single.

[Grallon]

So my American friends - are you ready for yet another round in the the middle-eastern quagmire?  Obama should detonate a nuke high above Damascus - as a warning.



G.

[Ed Anger]

So my American friends - are you ready for yet another round in the the middle-eastern quagmire?  Obama should detonate a nuke high above Damascus - as a warning.



G.

I like the cut of your jib.

[11B4V]

So my American friends - are you ready for yet another round in the the middle-eastern quagmire?  Obama should detonate a nuke high above Damascus - as a warning.



G.

He will do nothing.

[Admiral Yi]

So my American friends - are you ready for yet another round in the the middle-eastern quagmire?  Obama should detonate a nuke high above Damascus - as a warning.

If you don't put boots on the ground the chances of a quagmire are zero Kelvin.  You can walk away from a bombing campaign any time you want to.

But to answer your're question, hell no.  We can't afford it.

[Warspite]

It is an interesting fact that the British press and Westminster commentariat are infinitely more concerned by the "special relationship" than the public.

Cameron and Clegg did not make a convincing case for military action. It's all well and good to talk of limited punitive strikes, but the reality is that the situation is heavily complicated by the ongoing civil war. The government gave a good reason of why we should take action. But it did not give any indication as to what the intended outcome would be, beyond some waffly notion of "upholding international norms" (through the violation of other international norms, it turns out).

I agree that chemical weapons use is a dangerous crossing of an important red line that must be deterred and punished, but I don't agree that we should rush into action for the sake of credibilty without showing how they fit a strategy of ending the civil war.

There was no need to rush to a vote before the US presented its intelligence assessment, and the UN inspectors returned, other than the narcissistic need for Cameron and the UK to show they were "taking the lead". Ultimately I don't think this incident is a turning point in the "special relationship" or a reflection of the UK's wider posture on the world stage -- it's a reflection of cack-handed domestic politics.

By the way chaps, we're already intervening in Syria. Bombing Assad over CW use is just escalation. Important point.

[Razgovory]

So my American friends - are you ready for yet another round in the the middle-eastern quagmire?  Obama should detonate a nuke high above Damascus - as a warning.



G.

He will do nothing.

I bet the admit the Obama administration will take some form of military action.  You wanna take that bet.

[Razgovory]

It is an interesting fact that the British press and Westminster commentariat are infinitely more concerned by the "special relationship" than the public.

Cameron and Clegg did not make a convincing case for military action. It's all well and good to talk of limited punitive strikes, but the reality is that the situation is heavily complicated by the ongoing civil war. The government gave a good reason of why we should take action. But it did not give any indication as to what the intended outcome would be, beyond some waffly notion of "upholding international norms" (through the violation of other international norms, it turns out).

I agree that chemical weapons use is a dangerous crossing of an important red line that must be deterred and punished, but I don't agree that we should rush into action for the sake of credibilty without showing how they fit a strategy of ending the civil war.

There was no need to rush to a vote before the US presented its intelligence assessment, and the UN inspectors returned, other than the narcissistic need for Cameron and the UK to show they were "taking the lead". Ultimately I don't think this incident is a turning point in the "special relationship" or a reflection of the UK's wider posture on the world stage -- it's a reflection of cack-handed domestic politics.

By the way chaps, we're already intervening in Syria. Bombing Assad over CW use is just escalation. Important point.

Probably because the public at large don't gain a great deal from the special relationship while the government does.  I can sympathize not getting involved.  I don't want to get involved.  Obama is going to intervene because he stuck his dick out.

[mongers]

It is an interesting fact that the British press and Westminster commentariat are infinitely more concerned by the "special relationship" than the public.
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By the way chaps, we're already intervening in Syria. Bombing Assad over CW use is just escalation. Important point.

An good analysis, Warspite.

[CountDeMoney]

I agree that chemical weapons use is a dangerous crossing of an important red line that must be deterred and punished, but I don't agree that we should rush into action for the sake of credibilty without showing how they fit a strategy of ending the civil war.

Bu that's not the issue here.  We're talking about bombing the horse, not the cart.