Spitzer and Weiner Lead in New Poll Because Scandal Brought Name Recognition

Started by garbon, July 16, 2013, 10:21:47 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

DGuller

Quote from: alfred russel on July 23, 2013, 09:01:27 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 16, 2013, 05:41:55 PM
Quote from: fhdz on July 16, 2013, 05:39:40 PM
We Americans are very strange about sexual morals determining fitness for public positions.
I don't know. According to the opening post it looks like more people don't care than do, same with the Sanford race. I just think there's a maybe large, loud disapproving minority.

A lot of it is just the carelessness and lack of tact. If you are a high profile politician like a governor, or even just a congressman, don't frequent prostitutes or send out pictures of your penis. It really shouldn't be that hard.
Have you tried not sending pictures of your penis, hard or not? :yeahright:

alfred russel

Quote from: DGuller on July 23, 2013, 09:12:26 PM

Have you tried not sending pictures of your penis, hard or not? :yeahright:

Even though at many times it as been hard, I have avoided doing so.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

alfred russel

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2013, 09:11:13 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on July 23, 2013, 08:53:48 PM
His time as NY AG was very memorable--not just in NY but nationally. I don't know if it was when he was governor, or AG, but I posted on the forum that if we had cumulative voting in the US, I would cast them all against Spitzer.

(I know this because when the scandal came out I claimed I had said he was the most dangerous man in America, and when called out as making that up went back to check what I said, and then there was a debate whether I was being honest with the "most dangerous man in America" line  :)).

Refresh my memory Fredo.

He was NY AG during the Bush administration. Some parts of the administration were under fire for not bringing more securities enforcement actions during a period of market turmoil.

Because most of the major securities being traded have a presence in NY, he went in a very high profile way after a number of companies. My problem was always the grandstanding that went with it, and the way that he would have well publicized press conferences leveling serious allegations against companies, and then several weeks later quietly drop the allegations.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

DGuller

At this point I want Weiner to win precisely to deliver a blow to the idea that only nuns in good standing can run for political office.  The more penises of his there are out there, the better, as long as there aren't enough of them to sink his candidacy.

derspiess

Seriously.  I mean, what do people want these days?  Marion Barry??
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney


11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

garbon

Quote from: DGuller on July 23, 2013, 09:57:40 PM
At this point I want Weiner to win precisely to deliver a blow to the idea that only nuns in good standing can run for political office.  The more penises of his there are out there, the better, as long as there aren't enough of them to sink his candidacy.

It's true. Why shouldn't we want someone who continued to demonstrate poor impulse control?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Caliga

I want Weiner to win because he's pretty much demonstrated that if elected he'll be the funniest mayor in NYC history, and to me New York isn't much more than a potential source of amusement. :)
0 Ed Anger Disapproval Points

garbon

Quote from: Caliga on July 24, 2013, 08:13:07 AM
I want Weiner to win because he's pretty much demonstrated that if elected he'll be the funniest mayor in NYC history, and to me New York isn't much more than a potential source of amusement. :)

Well that's the other piece, you don't get to be mayor in a background. I'd rather not have someone who city, state, and federal officials (/everyone sensible) take as a joke.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Syt

Quote from: garbon on July 24, 2013, 08:19:31 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 24, 2013, 08:13:07 AM
I want Weiner to win because he's pretty much demonstrated that if elected he'll be the funniest mayor in NYC history, and to me New York isn't much more than a potential source of amusement. :)

Well that's the other piece, you don't get to be mayor in a background. I'd rather not have someone who city, state, and federal officials (/everyone sensible) take as a joke.

So not Mark Sanford, then?
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Caliga

My guess is Weiner is just running for office as a way of getting publicity for himself so he can try to get a reality show/write a book/etc.  In that case, the real joke is on the dumbasses who are funding his campaign.
0 Ed Anger Disapproval Points

garbon

Quote from: Syt on July 24, 2013, 08:20:44 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 24, 2013, 08:19:31 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 24, 2013, 08:13:07 AM
I want Weiner to win because he's pretty much demonstrated that if elected he'll be the funniest mayor in NYC history, and to me New York isn't much more than a potential source of amusement. :)

Well that's the other piece, you don't get to be mayor in a background. I'd rather not have someone who city, state, and federal officials (/everyone sensible) take as a joke.

So not Mark Sanford, then?

Yeah I might have issues with government officials who decide to just up and flee the country for a week. :D
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.