Boehner et. al. on Immigration Reform: "R. I. P."

[Razgovory]

They've been running ads on talk radio stations here non-stop for the past month or so with Rubio and (to a lesser extent) Paul Ryan, trying to sell the Senate immigration bill as a conservative measure.  Sometimes they'll even repeat the ad back to back during the same commercial break.  It does actually make a couple good points, but overall the "amnesty now, border security later maybe if we feel like it" thing is kind of a tough sell.

How exactly are we to gauge "border security"?

Ineffective, the Germans used that criteria and millions of Americans, Soviets and British crossed their borders.
Dead beaners piled high in front of maching gun emplacements with interlocking fields of fire.

[Ed Anger]

Germans suck. Good god fearing American ingenuity wins over godless shitting Germans.

[Admiral Yi]

Where did they say "buy Latino votes"?

Too Razzish today.

[Razgovory]

Where did they say "buy Latino votes"?

Too Razzish today.

So yeah, they didn't say that, did they? That's just how you interpret it.  Which is frankly an odd way to interpret it.  A rather long and arduous path to citizenship doesn't quite equal the purchase of votes for Latino citizens already here.

[Jacob]

Also, apart from Hil, what other political women have I been partial too?

I thought I've seen some from you re: Margaret Thatcher, Eva Peron, and a few others in the vein?

[derspiess]

So yeah, they didn't say that, did they? That's just how you interpret it.  Which is frankly an odd way to interpret it.  A rather long and arduous path to citizenship doesn't quite equal the purchase of votes for Latino citizens already here.

Oh, it wouldn't actually work.  But I agree with Yister than the motivation is pandering to the Hispanic vote.

[Razgovory]

So yeah, they didn't say that, did they? That's just how you interpret it.  Which is frankly an odd way to interpret it.  A rather long and arduous path to citizenship doesn't quite equal the purchase of votes for Latino citizens already here.

Oh, it wouldn't actually work.  But I agree with Yister than the motivation is pandering to the Hispanic vote.

Do you consider laws that you like pandering to you?

[Jacob]

I think means "appealing to voters who like something I disapprove of" when he says "pandering".

[Razgovory]

I think means "appealing to voters who like something I disapprove of" when he says "pandering".

Well it would also be pandering to business owner who often hire these guys as cheap labor.

[garbon]

Also, apart from Hil, what other political women have I been partial too?

I thought I've seen some from you re: Margaret Thatcher, Eva Peron, and a few others in the vein?

Oh, that's true though I definitely would not say that I support what Evita did in politics.

[derspiess]

I think means "appealing to voters who like something I disapprove of" when he says "pandering".

Well it would also be pandering to business owner who often hire these guys as cheap labor.

Absolutely.  They're lobbying & advertising pretty heavily for amnesty.

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[Razgovory]

Are you saying you are overheated?

[Valmy]

I think means "appealing to voters who like something I disapprove of" when he says "pandering".

Well it would also be pandering to business owner who often hire these guys as cheap labor.

Absolutely.  They're lobbying & advertising pretty heavily for amnesty.

Well I guess that explains why amnesty is so popular.

[fhdz]

Well Amnesty is cheap and easy. 

Easy?  Sure.  Cheap?  Not really, when you consider how much more social spending it will entail.

They're working for us. They should be receiving some benefits.

They are, we haven't thrown them out.

Why would we? They have been accepting minimum wage and lower to come work here, they have been doing jobs we don't like to do, and unscrupulous business owners can easily take advantage of them. What's to throw out?

My point was that they already get benefits.

You act like we're doing them a giant favor instead of the other way around