Boehner et. al. on Immigration Reform: "R. I. P."

[garbon]

Well Amnesty is cheap and easy. 

Easy?  Sure.  Cheap?  Not really, when you consider how much more social spending it will entail.

They're working for us. They should be receiving some benefits.

They are, we haven't thrown them out.

[garbon]

14 is a pretty good chunk

Of course it means that the bulk of Republicans in the senate were against it...

"Bipartisan" doesn't mean "everyone votes for it". It means that even among the opposition party there is a decent chunk of support.

Except in this case the decent chunk is the 32 of 46 who came out against it.

[fhdz]

Well Amnesty is cheap and easy. 

Easy?  Sure.  Cheap?  Not really, when you consider how much more social spending it will entail.

They're working for us. They should be receiving some benefits.

They are, we haven't thrown them out.

Why would we? They have been accepting minimum wage and lower to come work here, they have been doing jobs we don't like to do, and unscrupulous business owners can easily take advantage of them. What's to throw out?

[fhdz]

14 is a pretty good chunk

Of course it means that the bulk of Republicans in the senate were against it...

"Bipartisan" doesn't mean "everyone votes for it". It means that even among the opposition party there is a decent chunk of support.

Except in this case the decent chunk is the 32 of 46 who came out against it.

Okay, garbon. From here henceforth, bipartisan shall only be used to describe legislation which 50% of each party votes for.

[crazy canuck]

Its been so long since there has been such a thing as bipartisan polictics in America that its hard to recognize it when it occurs.

[garbon]

Well Amnesty is cheap and easy. 

Easy?  Sure.  Cheap?  Not really, when you consider how much more social spending it will entail.

They're working for us. They should be receiving some benefits.

They are, we haven't thrown them out.

Why would we? They have been accepting minimum wage and lower to come work here, they have been doing jobs we don't like to do, and unscrupulous business owners can easily take advantage of them. What's to throw out?

My point was that they already get benefits.

[garbon]

14 is a pretty good chunk

Of course it means that the bulk of Republicans in the senate were against it...

"Bipartisan" doesn't mean "everyone votes for it". It means that even among the opposition party there is a decent chunk of support.

Except in this case the decent chunk is the 32 of 46 who came out against it.

Okay, garbon. From here henceforth, bipartisan shall only be used to describe legislation which 50% of each party votes for.

Well you also have House Republicans coming out against it. Seems that "bipartisan" is just a buzzword if we apply the definition you are using.

[fhdz]

Well you also have House Republicans coming out against it.

I think they knew they were going to have a tougher time in the House anyway. It's a wonder some of those guys have all their teeth.

[garbon]

Well you also have House Republicans coming out against it.

I think they knew they were going to have a tougher time in the House anyway. It's a wonder some of those guys have all their teeth.

Indeed.

[Jacob]

Hey garbon - normally you seem pretty partial to tough political women. Why not Pelosi, what's your issue with her? (that's her, right?)

[garbon]

Hey garbon - normally you seem pretty partial to tough political women. Why not Pelosi, what's your issue with her? (that's her, right?)

Yes that's Pelosi. Mainly because she doesn't really do much while walking around with a large ego. She's very divisive in the sense that she doesn't even make gestures like she gives a damn about Republicans (or really anyone in her party that doesn't agree with her). She's basically like "I'm super awesome and know how everything should be if people just let me" and I don't share her views.

[garbon]

Also, apart from Hil, what other political women have I been partial too?

[Razgovory]

They've been running ads on talk radio stations here non-stop for the past month or so with Rubio and (to a lesser extent) Paul Ryan, trying to sell the Senate immigration bill as a conservative measure.  Sometimes they'll even repeat the ad back to back during the same commercial break.  It does actually make a couple good points, but overall the "amnesty now, border security later maybe if we feel like it" thing is kind of a tough sell.

How exactly are we to gauge "border security"?

[Ed Anger]

They've been running ads on talk radio stations here non-stop for the past month or so with Rubio and (to a lesser extent) Paul Ryan, trying to sell the Senate immigration bill as a conservative measure.  Sometimes they'll even repeat the ad back to back during the same commercial break.  It does actually make a couple good points, but overall the "amnesty now, border security later maybe if we feel like it" thing is kind of a tough sell.

How exactly are we to gauge "border security"?

Dead beaners piled high in front of maching gun emplacements with interlocking fields of fire.

[Razgovory]

Take it up with Rubio, Yi.

He and Jeb Bush both think the GOP has to buy Latino votes.  That has nothing to do with the merits.

Where did they say "buy Latino votes"?