How long should Dzhokhar Tsarnaev get behind bars?

[garbon]

He plays for the Patriots.  Also I think he might have killed some people.

Oh, him. Didn't know he'd killed people. Suppose I should read up on that, eh?

That seemed kind of secondary compared to playing for the Patriots.

Except that he doesn't play for the Patriots anymore.

[The Minsky Moment]

According to my quick analysis of the 2012 sentencing guidelines, he's eligible for 190 years plus death.

So basically something close to copyright term.

[Razgovory]

He plays for the Patriots.  Also I think he might have killed some people.

Oh, him. Didn't know he'd killed people. Suppose I should read up on that, eh?

That seemed kind of secondary compared to playing for the Patriots.

Except that he doesn't play for the Patriots anymore.

EDIT: Why do I keep doing that?

Well we are off season.  But you are right, they released him last month on account of this killing thingy.  Tom Brady is still at large.

[Ed Anger]

Torn apart by the Boston mob.

See that's thinking ED.

Make a reality TV show ala "Running Man". Put it on PPV and give the proceeds to the victims. Win Win really.

Or shove beer cans up his ass until he dies.

[11B4V]

Torn apart by the Boston mob.

See that's thinking ED.

Make a reality TV show ala "Running Man". Put it on PPV and give the proceeds to the victims. Win Win really.

Or shove beer cans up his ass until he dies.

Think of the one legged victims ED. That money from the show, would get them their new leg(s).

[KRonn]

People who do bad things come in all shapes, looks and sizes, obviously. If he were ten years older he wouldn't have his baby face and no one would think twice about his looks to think whether they could consider him being a killer. He just happens to be young, but if he were young and ugly he'd likely not get the same sympathy.

If he were 10 years older, I wouldn't be thinking, "Dear god, he's just a kid. How can he possibly have understood what he was doing?"

I can understand that, his youth being a factor. But it's just one factor, he still planned and executed what he did. I have a hard time getting past that.  His young age doesn't sway me. He's well old enough to have known what he was doing, and even being under the influence of someone else doesn't absolve him IMO. He didn't have to go along. He had everything. A good life, going to college, American friends, living well, government benefits. But he still wanted to go on this tear, to kill. Planned it all out with his brother, a horrid attack to kill and maim. Then bragged about it. In fact, given the heinous actions he's all the worse.

As for prison time. I don't figure he's going to reform, because as I said he already had everything going for him, a good life and all, but his intentions were quite otherwise.

[KRonn]

People who do bad things come in all shapes, looks and sizes, obviously. If he were ten years older he wouldn't have his baby face and no one would think twice about his looks to think whether they could consider him being a killer. He just happens to be young, but if he were young and ugly he'd likely not get the same sympathy.

  Yep, that's me - swayed by his pretty-boy looks.

Shockingly, Spellus isn't gushing about how he is the hottest terrorist ever.   

Yeah Habs, I obviously wasn't talking about you. But many girls and women have commented on his looks and seem infatuated with him, forgetting or overlooking what he's alleged to have done, which was absolutely terrible. Some have said he's too young, so shouldn't have to spend the rest of his life wasting away in prison. I guess they should think about the eight year old boy and others he killed, plus those maimed whose lives are very much changed.
On a related note, a friend in work knew the family of the boy who was killed. 

[11B4V]

People who do bad things come in all shapes, looks and sizes, obviously. If he were ten years older he wouldn't have his baby face and no one would think twice about his looks to think whether they could consider him being a killer. He just happens to be young, but if he were young and ugly he'd likely not get the same sympathy.

If he were 10 years older, I wouldn't be thinking, "Dear god, he's just a kid. How can he possibly have understood what he was doing?"

Not in the eyes of the law. Perhaps his family should have raised him better.

[Admiral Yi]

Yeah, not sure I buy the age angle.  Bombing a crowd does not qualify as a youthful indiscretion.

[Neil]

I just want to say that Meri's attitude in this thread is a good example of why it's absolutely ludicrous that an alledgedly advanced society lets women have a say in the making of laws.

[derspiess]

I just want to say that Meri's attitude in this thread is a good example of why it's absolutely ludicrous that an alledgedly advanced society lets women have a say in the making of laws.

BUT HE LOOKS SO SWEET

[garbon]

I thought Meri was just saying that it is even harder for her to understand what he did given his age. I didn't think she was saying that he should get lenient treatment because of that.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Its not like he's 15 years old. Send him to Rikers.

[Admiral Yi]

I thought Meri was just saying that it is even harder for her to understand what he did given his age. I didn't think she was saying that he should get lenient treatment because of that.

Read it again.  "How can *he* possibly have undestood what he was doing?"

(BTW Meri, nice job not splitting the infinite.  )

[garbon]

I thought Meri was just saying that it is even harder for her to understand what he did given his age. I didn't think she was saying that he should get lenient treatment because of that.

Read it again.  "How can *he* possibly have undestood what he was doing?"

(BTW Meri, nice job not splitting the infinite.  )

Of course, I could just read this post of hers.

I'd guess that it's denial. It's hard to look at that sweet-looking child and think "monster". I'm having a hard time with it, and I know that he is one. I keep trying to come up with reasons why he would do it that aren't his fault, anything to explain away his decisions.

The facts are, however, that he actively participated in mass murder and terror. Yes, he's young, but not so young as to not understand what his choices were. He deserves to be punished for his crimes no matter how young or how sweet he looks.