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One step closer to capturing antimatter

Started by citizen k, May 28, 2009, 01:38:07 AM

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Norgy

Quote from: Neil on May 28, 2009, 11:08:24 AM
But can it be done economically? 

I would say so. Imagine you have a bunch of stuff that matters, like a small mole hill of unpaid bills. Release the antimatter, and it won't matter any more.


lustindarkness

Good ones PDH, BTW, who will volunteer to be the first one to change into Doc Manhattan?
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Neil

Quote from: lustindarkness on May 28, 2009, 11:23:00 AM
Good ones PDH, BTW, who will volunteer to be the first one to change into Doc Manhattan?
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Quote from: Neil on May 28, 2009, 11:08:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 28, 2009, 11:06:01 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 28, 2009, 11:03:14 AM
What are the practical applications of antimatter?

I presume it would be the obvious: causing a reaction with matter to produce a release of energy.
But can it be done economically?  After all, positrons have very little mass.

I thought it took more energy to make then it would put out.
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lustindarkness

Quote from: Razgovory on May 28, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 28, 2009, 11:08:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 28, 2009, 11:06:01 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 28, 2009, 11:03:14 AM
What are the practical applications of antimatter?

I presume it would be the obvious: causing a reaction with matter to produce a release of energy.
But can it be done economically?  After all, positrons have very little mass.

I thought it took more energy to make then it would put out.
Sounds like women are made of anti-matter then.
Grand Duke of Lurkdom

Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on May 28, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
I thought it took more energy to make then it would put out.

Even if true if it can be captured and stored it may be useful for energy storage perhaps.  After all no energy storage method is 100% efficient.
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Quote from: Razgovory on May 28, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
I thought it took more energy to make then it would put out.

Yes.  On the other hand, anti-matter is a hell of a battery.

Razgovory

Huh.  I looked this up.  Positrons seem to be just one form of anti-matter one that occurs naturally (though not on earth).  If they could  get it to produce the energy advertised then I can see how it would be handy.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

PDH

Quote from: Neil on May 28, 2009, 11:08:24 AM
But can it be done economically?  After all, positrons have very little mass.
Still, being multiplied by the speed of light squared means very little mass in can lead to rather big results...
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The Brain

Quote from: ulmont on May 28, 2009, 12:31:43 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 28, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
I thought it took more energy to make then it would put out.

Yes.  On the other hand, anti-matter is a hell of a battery.

Anti-matter is one hell of a drug.
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Neil

Quote from: PDH on May 28, 2009, 03:42:27 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 28, 2009, 11:08:24 AM
But can it be done economically?  After all, positrons have very little mass.
Still, being multiplied by the speed of light squared means very little mass in can lead to rather big results...
To be sure.  But 160 femtojoules isn't so hot.  Even if you annihilate them ten trillion at a time, you're still going to produce enough energy to create a harmless puff.

Now, if they can derive a means of production for antiprotons, that might be interesting.
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citizen k

from article:

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In order to harness the energy of positrons, Weber listed three problems that must be overcome.

"We need to be able to generate many positrons; we need a vacuum container to store them in; and then we must convert their annihilation power into something that drives an engine or turns on the lights. Right now we are focusing on the storage problem."


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What's the military potential of this?



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Quote from: The Brain on May 28, 2009, 03:43:28 PM
Quote from: ulmont on May 28, 2009, 12:31:43 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 28, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
I thought it took more energy to make then it would put out.

Yes.  On the other hand, anti-matter is a hell of a battery.

Anti-matter is one hell of a drug.

It's more of an anti-drug, really.
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