Why has Israel never appeared in the Civ franchise?

[Eddie Teach]

I don't think the Celts or Zulu were particularly urbanized either.

[Admiral Yi]

I don't think the Celts or Zulu were particularly urbanized either.

Excellent examples.  Back on the list, probationary status.

[CountDeMoney]

I don't think the Celts or Zulu were particularly urbanized either.

Did any of the earlier Civ versions have the Hittites?

[garbon]

I don't think the Celts or Zulu were particularly urbanized either.

Did any of the earlier Civ versions have the Hittites?

I believe Civ 3 had them in an expansion. Age of Empires 1 also had them.

[fhdz]

For what it is worth, back in Civ II I played with a custom Israeli civ.

I DID TOO!!

[garbon]

I don't think the Celts or Zulu were particularly urbanized either.

Fair.

Actually in the discussion we had in game forum, Civ series has always played rather fast and loose with civs. Really not sure one can develop a coherent narrative on what states should be included and what shouldn't.

[Caliga]

I actually think, now that emphasis has shifted away from having to have a gigantic empire, the Jews make sense as a Civ to include in the game.

OTOH, from a marketing standpoint including them as a playable Civ makes no sense if they want to be able to sell their product in the Middle East.

[CountDeMoney]

OTOH, from a marketing standpoint including them as a playable Civ makes no sense if they want to be able to sell their product in the Middle East.

It'll sell in Europe though as it'll be the first empire players will try to crush, or at the very least stuff into ovens.

[Malthus]

I actually think, now that emphasis has shifted away from having to have a gigantic empire, the Jews make sense as a Civ to include in the game.

OTOH, from a marketing standpoint including them as a playable Civ makes no sense if they want to be able to sell their product in the Middle East.

Just include them as an option, and people throughout the ME can have all the fun of conquering them over and over again. 

[Valmy]

OTOH, from a marketing standpoint including them as a playable Civ makes no sense if they want to be able to sell their product in the Middle East.

I thought people liked the old Kingdom of Israel.  You just cannot have Golda Meir as the female leader

[Eddie Teach]

OTOH, from a marketing standpoint including them as a playable Civ makes no sense if they want to be able to sell their product in the Middle East.

It'll sell in Europe though as it'll be the first empire players will try to crush, or at the very least stuff into ovens.

Assuming it's even legal to sell it with them in.

[Malthus]

OTOH, from a marketing standpoint including them as a playable Civ makes no sense if they want to be able to sell their product in the Middle East.

I thought people liked the old Kingdom of Israel.  You just cannot have Golda Meir as the female leader

Deborah would be a good Biblical choice. 

For male, it could be David or Solomon.

[CountDeMoney]

Assuming it's even legal to sell it with them in.

I don't see why not.  No swastikas.  I'm sure little non-specific menorahs and yarmulkes would be fine, though.

[Caliga]

Dude, no, if they do include TEH JOOS they definitely need to have the leader avatar be that general dude with the eyepatch.  YARRRRRRR CHAVERI

[fhdz]

Dude, no, if they do include TEH JOOS they definitely need to have the leader avatar be that general dude with the eyepatch.  YARRRRRRR CHAVERI

Moshe Dayan? That guy was a mega-hardass.

But no, it'd be David Ben-Gurion all day long.