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Was Malthus ever poor?

Started by DGuller, June 21, 2013, 03:28:53 PM

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Was Malthus ever poor?

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Maybe, sort of.  I guess it depends...

Maximus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 25, 2013, 11:59:30 AM
Quote from: merithyn on June 25, 2013, 11:42:51 AM
Is that how you read that? Interesting, as it's not at all what I meant.

There were only two interpretations that I could come up with.  One was that if you have some doubt, your are not poor.  Only those people that are absolutely sure they are poor are in fact poor.

Of the two, the one I posted earlier made more sense: there are the true poor, of which you are/were one, and only the true poor can judge who the true poor are.  So not, strictly speaking, just you, but you and others who you deem true poor.

There is at least one more reasonable interpretation: The True PoorTM are a subset of those who think they are poor. No authority is implied over who is in that subset.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Maximus on June 25, 2013, 12:53:28 PM
There is at least one more reasonable interpretation: The True PoorTM are a subset of those who think they are poor. No authority is implied over who is in that subset.

For this one you need to ignore the language about poor people knowing it.

Siege

Hello, my name is Siege Breaker, and I am a poor.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


frunk

Quote from: Malthus on June 25, 2013, 12:52:13 PM
I've explained in detail what I said and what I meant. If you can't accept it, well, really, what can I say? That's just too bad.

I think it's a black thing, you don't have the right to use the "p" word.

Malthus

Quote from: frunk on June 25, 2013, 01:04:03 PM
Quote from: Malthus on June 25, 2013, 12:52:13 PM
I've explained in detail what I said and what I meant. If you can't accept it, well, really, what can I say? That's just too bad.

I think it's a black thing, you don't have the right to use the "p" word.

:D

Honestly, I've never encountered anything like this level of sensitivity about the "p" word.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

crazy canuck

Quote from: frunk on June 25, 2013, 01:04:03 PM
Quote from: Malthus on June 25, 2013, 12:52:13 PM
I've explained in detail what I said and what I meant. If you can't accept it, well, really, what can I say? That's just too bad.

I think it's a black thing, you don't have the right to use the "p" word.

Or at least not be born into the upper class of Canadian society. ;)

The Brain

Quote from: Siege on June 25, 2013, 12:58:12 PM
Hello, my name is Siege Breaker, and I am a poor.

Prove it.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Malthus on June 25, 2013, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: frunk on June 25, 2013, 01:04:03 PM
Quote from: Malthus on June 25, 2013, 12:52:13 PM
I've explained in detail what I said and what I meant. If you can't accept it, well, really, what can I say? That's just too bad.

I think it's a black thing, you don't have the right to use the "p" word.

:D

Honestly, I've never encountered anything like this level of sensitivity about the "p" word.

Not surprising, given that the peer group you had.

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Maximus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 25, 2013, 12:55:53 PM
Quote from: Maximus on June 25, 2013, 12:53:28 PM
There is at least one more reasonable interpretation: The True PoorTM are a subset of those who think they are poor. No authority is implied over who is in that subset.

For this one you need to ignore the language about poor people knowing it.
Obviously Meri was speaking colloquially.

However in order to make this thread interesting:
What is the functional difference between knowing something and thinking you know something when in fact it is unknowable?

Malthus

Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2013, 01:09:30 PM
Quote from: Malthus on June 25, 2013, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: frunk on June 25, 2013, 01:04:03 PM
Quote from: Malthus on June 25, 2013, 12:52:13 PM
I've explained in detail what I said and what I meant. If you can't accept it, well, really, what can I say? That's just too bad.

I think it's a black thing, you don't have the right to use the "p" word.

:D

Honestly, I've never encountered anything like this level of sensitivity about the "p" word.

Not surprising, given that the peer group you had.

People who are not crazy?  :hmm:
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Caliga

This is one of the gayest threads in Languish history, which is why I'm disappointed Mart couldn't be here to contribute to it. :(
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Maximus on June 25, 2013, 01:15:57 PM
Obviously Meri was speaking colloquially.

Ah, the figurative sense of "know."  :P

QuoteHowever in order to make this thread interesting:
What is the functional difference between knowing something and thinking you know something when in fact it is unknowable?

I give up.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Malthus on June 25, 2013, 01:17:31 PM
People who are not crazy?  :hmm:

Yeah, because rich kids who think they are poor have no problem with their grip on reality at all.

Maximus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 25, 2013, 01:20:10 PM
I give up.
You are watching a magic show.

Two blind magicians each draw a marble from a bag that contains red and blue marbles. Magician A draws a red marble, magician B draws a blue marble.

Each conducts his divination and proclaims that he has drawn a red marble.

The ambiguity of natural language would lead us to say that Magician A knows, while magician B just thinks he knows. In fact there is no functional difference.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 25, 2013, 01:20:10 PM
Ah, the figurative sense of "know."  :P

The colloquial sense of "know" which means something like "thinks he knows, but doesn't. However it so happens he is correct."