The future George Zimmerman Acquittal Trial Megathread!

[CountDeMoney]

while the analysis in the Orlando Sentinel claimed the state had been devastated.

Zimmerman to cops and Fox News: "'Stand Your Ground' law?  Never heard of it."
Zimmerman's Criminal Justice Instructor: "'Stand Your Ground' law?  Yeah, we covered it in my class."

[The Brain]

Those who can't teach, teach.

[DGuller]

Those who can't teach, teach.

[grumbler]

Those who can't teach, teach.

No shit!    And you can always tell who they are, because they complain about their students.

[Ed Anger]

HEY NOW

[mongers]

Guys, if you google image search this lady, this thread is the 2nd result. :gasp:

Are 'we' doing something  right or wrong or is Concrete's googlefu awesome?

[Caliga]

There's fucking jackhammering going on outside my window. 

[Eddie Teach]

Guys, if you google image search this lady, this thread is the 2nd result. :gasp:

Are 'we' doing something  right or wrong or is Concrete's googlefu awesome?

Or Google knows you frequent this site.

[Sheilbh]

Funny how the anti-Zim narrative shifted so quickly.  Up through last week, it held that Zim stalked and attacked an innocent cherubish Trayvon and decided to murder him in cold blood.  That seems to have seamlessly shifted to badass Trayvon knowing how to throw down (admirable quality) & beating the shit out of the cracka (which is not an offensive term), then the cracka being so humiliated that he shot Trayvon after it was all over.  Wonder if that is set in stone or if it will change next week.

That was what I never understood. Surely if anyone should be protected by a stand your ground law it's the person being followed around who should, if they're able, be able to confront their stalker.

Incidentally in the UK the Supreme Court can be watched online, but they're starting to allow more cameras into courts. I think a Scottish murder retrial is going to be broadcast soon and then the Scottish courts are going to review the experience and decide how to continue. The Scottish courts allowed sentencing to be filmed before:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9211137/David-Gilroy-sentenced-in-first-televised-court-case.html

[mongers]

Guys, if you google image search this lady, this thread is the 2nd result. :gasp:

Are 'we' doing something  right or wrong or is Concrete's googlefu awesome?

Or Google knows you frequent this site.

Nope, I've just tried it in a cleaned firefox install, and 11b4vs languish link/this thread is the 2nd result in the image search.   

[MadBurgerMaker]

That was what I never understood. Surely if anyone should be protected by a stand your ground law it's the person being followed around who should, if they're able, be able to confront their stalker.

Tell them to fuck off?  Sure, although he doesn't have to go anywhere.  Smash their head into the ground repeatedly?  Not so much.  Both of them were perfectly free to be where they were.

Related:



Is this right? Martin was in the backyard of his dad's house (according to the girl he was on the phone with), then went all the way back to where the shooting happened?

E:  My wife was telling me there's some shit about the cops fucking up evidence and something about Zimmerman's DNA not being under Martin's fingernails?  What was the evidence that got fucked up, and why would they be expecting DNA under his fingernails?

[11B4V]

Guys, if you google image search this lady, this thread is the 2nd result. :gasp:

Are 'we' doing something  right or wrong or is Concrete's googlefu awesome?

Or Google knows you frequent this site.

Nope, I've just tried it in a cleaned firefox install, and 11b4vs languish link/this thread is the 2nd result in the image search.   

[OttoVonBismarck]

Has anyone been following the trial? Has anything changed that makes it look like Zimmerman might actually get convicted or does it still sort of seem like a crime the prosecution has no hope of proving beyond reasonable doubt? I wasn't able to sustain much interest in this case after the first few months of the drama when it first started so haven't followed the trial at all.

[CountDeMoney]

I dunno, Otto.  A jury of six soccer moms could go in any direction.

Everybody goofs on Jenteal, but her testimony from listening to the duration of the event on the phone was pretty solid.
The DNA expert from yesterday testified that no Zimmerman DNA was on either of Martin's hands or clothes, who allegedly was "grounding and pounding" Zimmerman to cookie dough.  Can't really bitch about the DNA evidence collection at the scene or chain of custody, because they had solid collections from Zimmerman and his clothing.

Personally, it seems to me Zimmerman took some liberal license as to his side of the story on what happened, but you can do that when you're the only one alive.  I just don't buy the "You're going to die tonight" Martin quote.

I think it comes down to whose timeline the jury's going to believe, Zimmerman's or the combined Jenteal/911 operator, and whether or not they believe you're a victim because you had to use a gun when you're losing a fight you started.

[Kleves]

Is there any physical evidence that Zimmerman started the fight (by which I mean a physical altercation, not just following Trayvon around)?