The future George Zimmerman Acquittal Trial Megathread!

Started by CountDeMoney, June 20, 2013, 06:21:57 PM

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on July 04, 2013, 07:17:46 AM
Has anyone been following the trial? Has anything changed that makes it look like Zimmerman might actually get convicted or does it still sort of seem like a crime the prosecution has no hope of proving beyond reasonable doubt? I wasn't able to sustain much interest in this case after the first few months of the drama when it first started so haven't followed the trial at all.

I think the chances of a guilty verdict are very slim.  5-1 against?

Malthus

Be prepared for the reaction in the rest of the world, ignorant of the niceties of US law or of the details of the trial, to assume that a "not guilty" verdict was caused by the victim being guilty of first-degree aggrivated negritude while knowingly and willfully inhabiting Florida.  ;)
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Siege

Oscar Grant's shit didn't end well. Riots and shit after that german cop that shot him got adquited.



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

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Kleves

Quote from: Malthus on July 04, 2013, 02:24:34 PM
Be prepared for the reaction in the rest of the world, ignorant of the niceties of US law or of the details of the trial, to assume that a "not guilty" verdict was caused by the victim being guilty of first-degree aggrivated negritude while knowingly and willfully inhabiting Florida.  ;)
I thought Seedy was American.  :hmm:
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"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


katmai

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

Caliga

Quote from: Malthus on July 04, 2013, 02:24:34 PM
Be prepared for the reaction in the rest of the world
The rest of the world can kiss our asses.  USA!  USA!  USA!
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Admiral Yi

Only way to make Europe happy would be to find Zimmerman guilty of first degree murder and put him away for 9 months.

Caliga

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 05, 2013, 06:05:35 AM
Only way to make Europe happy would be to find Zimmerman guilty of first degree murder and put him away for 9 months.
:lol:
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CountDeMoney

Trayvon's mother is on the stand this AM.

Lawyers have the worst tact dealing with dead kids' Moms.  No knock knock jokes from O'Mara, but man.

Kleves

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2013, 08:05:10 AM
Lawyers have the worst tact dealing with dead kids' Moms.  No knock knock jokes from O'Mara, but man.
Yeah, there's not much you're likely to get on cross examination from her, and you can easily come off looking like a dick when you're going after mom. I saw a trial once where a mother was on the stand as an alibi witness for her son. The prosecutor got up and asked, "You love your son very much, don't you?" "Yes." Cross-examination over. That's all he needed to get to be able to argue in closing that the mother was a biased witness, and he didn't come out of it looking like a douche. I thought that was a good strategy.
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

OttoVonBismarck

Yeah, with limited exceptions if I was on a jury or some sort of judge tryer-of-fact in a different system I would give the testimony of mothers very little weight when it came to their children. I'm a father and I would say pretty much anything on the stand to get someone I blamed for my child's murder convicted.

Barrister

Quote from: Kleves on July 05, 2013, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2013, 08:05:10 AM
Lawyers have the worst tact dealing with dead kids' Moms.  No knock knock jokes from O'Mara, but man.
Yeah, there's not much you're likely to get on cross examination from her, and you can easily come off looking like a dick when you're going after mom. I saw a trial once where a mother was on the stand as an alibi witness for her son. The prosecutor got up and asked, "You love your son very much, don't you?" "Yes." Cross-examination over. That's all he needed to get to be able to argue in closing that the mother was a biased witness, and he didn't come out of it looking like a douche. I thought that was a good strategy.

Yup - few points to be made with moms and girlfriends.
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CountDeMoney

I didn't get where he thought he was going with asking her if it wasn't her son's voice, would it be in her opinion of somebody's screams who caused their own death.  Squirrelly line of questioning, and really the wrong way to bait a Mom.

Siege

Wait, that fat welfare chick was Tryvon's girlfriend?



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"