New Xbox Reveal at 10PDT/1EDT

[Berkut]

I actually think this is a much bigger deal than the last generation of consoles.

But not because of gaming, really.

[Josquius]

I actually think this is a much bigger deal than the last generation of consoles.

But not because of gaming, really.

Why?
I'm curious.

I can't really compare there. The last generation too wasn't quite the epic event new consoles used to be. The wii being an exception.

[Syt]

While the TV/entertainment functions coming with the new consoles are pretty neat/interesting, I'm doubting that this will be relevant for non-US/-Canada customers in the next couple of years. The licensing of video on demand, for example, happens in Europe still by country, which means there's still nothing remotely comparable to hulu or netflix even in potentially huge markets like Germany. And they'd have to adapt their offering to whatever is the local requirement/law/market.

Looking at iTunes stores all over Europe, for instance, reveals huge differences in what's available (Austrian iTunes only slowly started adding movies/TV shows in the last year or so and his far behind Germany which in turn is far behind Uk and US).

[Grey Fox]

Don't kid yourself Syt, Canada is in the same boat than Germany.

Well, the reception of this is a damn disaster. I rather not have a Micro/Camera combo listening & watching my everymove in my living room.

[Syt]

Yeah, the PS4 reveal seemed to leave people, "Meh", while this one creates, "Thanks, but no thanks".

[garbon]

Yeah, the PS4 reveal seemed to leave people, "Meh", while this one creates, "Thanks, but no thanks".

I'm guessing the latter is more positive?

[Syt]

Mildly.

Also, yesterday's reveal condensed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

[crazy canuck]

I have no idea why I would want a new console.  The ones we have now seem quite adequate for the few times the boys actually spend time on the things.  Personally I never got into console gaming.  Probably because I am not into FPS type games.

[garbon]

I have no idea why I would want a new console.  The ones we have now seem quite adequate for the few times the boys actually spend time on the things.  Personally I never got into console gaming.  Probably because I am not into FPS type games.

I think Far Cry Blood Dragon is one of the few FPS games that I own on my PS3. Most games I play are 3rd person (GTA, Assassin's Creed, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, etc.)

Oh actually I also have Resistance: Fall of Man as an FPS.

[DontSayBanana]

Ugh.  Reading the results of the Q&A after the actual reveal presentation, I'm going to call this one of the most fucking stupid console releases ever.  The used game "unlock fee" in particular is just going to kill that before it ever hits the market- that's prime material for legal challenges that Microsoft can't win.

[Barrister]

Ugh.  Reading the results of the Q&A after the actual reveal presentation, I'm going to call this one of the most fucking stupid console releases ever.  The used game "unlock fee" in particular is just going to kill that before it ever hits the market- that's prime material for legal challenges that Microsoft can't win.

When did you get called to the bar?

[DontSayBanana]

When did you get called to the bar?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

SCOTUS literally just reinforced this.

[Barrister]

When did you get called to the bar?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

SCOTUS literally just reinforced this.

So I see - Microsoft, a company with $73 billion dollars in income and enough money to hire the best law firms in the country, just made a legal mistake so obvious that you are positive they can't win.

Colour me sceptical.

[garbon]

When did you get called to the bar?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

SCOTUS literally just reinforced this.

So I see - Microsoft, a company with $73 billion dollars in income and enough money to hire the best law firms in the country, just made a legal mistake so obvious that you are positive they can't win.

Colour me sceptical.

He also just said that it will kill their console and also told us that PS3 owners can play PS2 games on their PS3s so...

[Neil]

Are there any games involved in this game console?  It seemed to me that most everything revolved around TV, a medium that I am profoundly uninterested in.