2016 elections - because it's never too early

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derspiess

#9420
May 03, 2016, 01:55:21 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 03, 2016, 01:50:28 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2016, 01:48:38 PM
Which is why I'm voting third party #cleanhands

If Trump wins, will you be able to face your maker on Judgement Day and explain that vote?

Yessir.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

#9421
May 03, 2016, 01:55:31 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2016, 01:49:45 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 03, 2016, 01:44:21 PM
It does?  No matter her personal qualities, she advocates policies that are beneficial rather than highly damaging for a country.  Surely that counts for enough to go over the "anything positive" threshold?

Only if you believe her policy positions are beneficial.  Which I don't.

Well they are not catastrophic which is as good as it gets in this shit show.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

#9422
May 03, 2016, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 03, 2016, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2016, 01:49:45 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 03, 2016, 01:44:21 PM
It does?  No matter her personal qualities, she advocates policies that are beneficial rather than highly damaging for a country.  Surely that counts for enough to go over the "anything positive" threshold?

Only if you believe her policy positions are beneficial.  Which I don't.
So, by extending the logical chain, it reflects badly on you if you think her policy positions are beneficial?

Maybe.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

#9423
May 03, 2016, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 03, 2016, 01:53:36 PM
Neither do I.  But her bad proposals are modest enough, and she's corrupt enough to the entrenched interests, that I think she'd be less damaging than Trump to US interests.

Good for you.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

#9424
May 03, 2016, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 03, 2016, 01:45:21 PM
Is Marti still using the word "kind and sensitive person"?
Good grief.

I never would have dreamed the return of weird Shakespearean insults would be so tiresome -_-
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

DGuller

#9425
May 03, 2016, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2016, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 03, 2016, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2016, 01:49:45 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 03, 2016, 01:44:21 PM
It does?  No matter her personal qualities, she advocates policies that are beneficial rather than highly damaging for a country.  Surely that counts for enough to go over the "anything positive" threshold?

Only if you believe her policy positions are beneficial.  Which I don't.
So, by extending the logical chain, it reflects badly on you if you think her policy positions are beneficial?

Maybe.
I would say that it's a reflection on you more than anything.

Valmy

#9426
May 03, 2016, 02:02:50 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2016, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 03, 2016, 01:41:08 PM
I think at this point it's a matter of degrees and damage control.

Which is why I'm voting third party #cleanhands

Ah I think I understand you now.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

#9427
May 03, 2016, 02:02:58 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 03, 2016, 02:02:28 PM
I would say that it's a reflection on you more than anything.

Burn.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

crazy canuck

#9428
May 03, 2016, 02:03:09 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2016, 01:55:21 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 03, 2016, 01:50:28 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2016, 01:48:38 PM
Which is why I'm voting third party #cleanhands

If Trump wins, will you be able to face your maker on Judgement Day and explain that vote?

Yessir.

God help you

derspiess

#9429
May 03, 2016, 02:04:10 PM
What's it matter?  Trump will get trounced by Hillary in the general-- you guys told me so.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

#9430
May 03, 2016, 02:06:58 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2016, 02:04:10 PM
What's it matter?  Trump will get trounced by Hillary in the general-- you guys told me so.

I have no problem now that I realized your position was #nobody. That is a perfectly understandable position from where you are standing.

I have never said that Trump would get trounced that I aware of :hmm: unless Jaron is actually right about the Utah thing. I still don't believe it. Did I bet him on that? I feel like I should wager on that.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

#9431
May 03, 2016, 02:09:03 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 03, 2016, 01:53:36 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2016, 01:49:45 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 03, 2016, 01:44:21 PM
It does?  No matter her personal qualities, she advocates policies that are beneficial rather than highly damaging for a country.  Surely that counts for enough to go over the "anything positive" threshold?

Only if you believe her policy positions are beneficial.  Which I don't.

Neither do I.  But her bad proposals are modest enough, and she's corrupt enough to the entrenched interests, that I think she'd be less damaging than Trump to US interests.

What indication do you have she is "corrupt"?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#9432
May 03, 2016, 02:11:18 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2016, 02:04:10 PM
What's it matter?  Trump will get trounced by Hillary in the general-- you guys told me so.

As has been pointed out several times by our resident Mormon convert, every vote is ultimately meaningless unless your state's margin is one vote, and your state is the deciding state.

That's why I raised the Judgement Day question, because I think the only responsible way to think about your vote is to consider the possibility that your vote is that one vote.

And given the fact you vote in Fuckeyeland, your vote probably matters more than most.

Barrister

#9433
May 03, 2016, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 03, 2016, 02:09:03 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 03, 2016, 01:53:36 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2016, 01:49:45 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 03, 2016, 01:44:21 PM
It does?  No matter her personal qualities, she advocates policies that are beneficial rather than highly damaging for a country.  Surely that counts for enough to go over the "anything positive" threshold?

Only if you believe her policy positions are beneficial.  Which I don't.

Neither do I.  But her bad proposals are modest enough, and she's corrupt enough to the entrenched interests, that I think she'd be less damaging than Trump to US interests.

What indication do you have she is "corrupt"?

The outrageous speaking fees.  The Clinton Foundation donations.  She's married to Bill.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

derspiess

#9434
May 03, 2016, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 03, 2016, 02:11:18 PM
And given the fact you vote in Fuckeyeland, your vote probably matters more than most.

Votes.  Anyway, you guys better hope anti-Trumpites don't piss me off in late October or early November :D
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall
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