2016 elections - because it's never too early

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Caliga

#6645
March 09, 2016, 06:09:36 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 09, 2016, 06:08:42 AM
Heh, well I dislike Cruz just as much as Trump.  :sleep:
Yeah. :(

It sucks that the #2 guy right now is someone who scares the shit out of me too.
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garbon

#6646
March 09, 2016, 06:26:33 AM
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Legbiter

#6647
March 09, 2016, 07:14:06 AM
Posted using 100% recycled electrons.

Capetan Mihali

#6648
March 09, 2016, 08:17:34 AM
It's insulting when people compare Trump with Mussolini.

Mussolini was a blacksmith's son who worked and studied hard, to become a prominent journalist, combat veteran, mesmerizing public speaker, and deep reader of philosophical and political thought -- all prior to seizing power before the age of 40.

Born into wealth, an evader of military service, prone to hour-long rambling stump speeches, and the author of egotistical self-help books, Trump at almost 70 years old has got a failed casino, some very tall luxury apartment buildings, and a popular reality show to his name...that's all I can honestly think of, feel free to add to the list.
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Lettow77

#6649
March 09, 2016, 08:43:13 AM
 There's no need to provoke him like that. He's very sensitive about his line of steaks, magazines, water and champagne. He assures us Trump University will be opening its door again after the lawsuit as well.

Also, his hands aren't so small. Really, they are not. Could small hands do so well in golf? I ask you.
It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

Eddie Teach

#6650
March 09, 2016, 09:42:46 AM
Compare Mussolini at Trump's age/death rather than 40 and he doesn't come off so well.
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alfred russel

#6651
March 09, 2016, 10:00:18 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 09, 2016, 01:28:56 AM
I am beginning to wonder if Languish is really the best source for news, though.

Whenever I come to this thread, there is at least a handful of people arguing why Trump is on his way to lose again and it is inevitable now for someone to pull away and get the Republican nomination. The same is happening right now after yesterday's voting.

Yet... every single proper news source (from left to right) which I then visited is talking about another big win for Trump and him solidifying his chances to be the nominee. I am starting to think Dorsey is biased in reporting on Trump's lead.  :hmm:

Last night was a good night for Trump. But he still hasn't won delegates at a fast enough clip to secure the nomination without a contested convention (he needs 50% of delegates, right now he is under 50% of those that have been awarded).

It should be easier for him to pick up the pace starting next week when the winner take all contests start. With Rubio collapsing, I have to think Trump will win in Florida and Illinois.

The problem he could have is that if this becomes a 1-1 contest with him and Cruz, polling indicates that Cruz is the one with over 50%. In that case, Trump could start to fail to get any delegates at all from winner take all states.
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derspiess

#6652
March 09, 2016, 10:02:24 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 09, 2016, 03:36:21 AM
but there is a distinct support among these groups for Trump based on Schadenfreude and the fact that this will piss off immensely all the Anitas Sarkesian, Macklemores and similar people.

:)
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Capetan Mihali

#6653
March 09, 2016, 10:02:48 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 09, 2016, 09:42:46 AM
Compare Mussolini at Trump's age/death rather than 40 and he doesn't come off so well.

Mussolini 1945 > Trump 2030
"The internet's completely over. [...] The internet's like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."
-- Prince, 2010. (R.I.P.)

Eddie Teach

#6654
March 09, 2016, 10:05:18 AM
Not if Trump loses the election.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

DGuller

#6655
March 09, 2016, 10:07:41 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 09, 2016, 10:00:18 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 09, 2016, 01:28:56 AM
I am beginning to wonder if Languish is really the best source for news, though.

Whenever I come to this thread, there is at least a handful of people arguing why Trump is on his way to lose again and it is inevitable now for someone to pull away and get the Republican nomination. The same is happening right now after yesterday's voting.

Yet... every single proper news source (from left to right) which I then visited is talking about another big win for Trump and him solidifying his chances to be the nominee. I am starting to think Dorsey is biased in reporting on Trump's lead.  :hmm:

Last night was a good night for Trump. But he still hasn't won delegates at a fast enough clip to secure the nomination without a contested convention (he needs 50% of delegates, right now he is under 50% of those that have been awarded).

It should be easier for him to pick up the pace starting next week when the winner take all contests start. With Rubio collapsing, I have to think Trump will win in Florida and Illinois.

The problem he could have is that if this becomes a 1-1 contest with him and Cruz, polling indicates that Cruz is the one with over 50%. In that case, Trump could start to fail to get any delegates at all from winner take all states.
I think 538 tracker is designed to account for that, in what it considers to be "on pace" or "not on pace".  It's not as simple as "does he have 50% of delegates now or not", for reasons that you described.

Barrister

#6656
March 09, 2016, 10:44:22 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 09, 2016, 01:28:56 AM
I am beginning to wonder if Languish is really the best source for news, though.

Whenever I come to this thread, there is at least a handful of people arguing why Trump is on his way to lose again and it is inevitable now for someone to pull away and get the Republican nomination. The same is happening right now after yesterday's voting.

Yet... every single proper news source (from left to right) which I then visited is talking about another big win for Trump and him solidifying his chances to be the nominee. I am starting to think Dorsey is biased in reporting on Trump's lead.  :hmm:

Yes.  Don't listen to Dorsey.  Trump has the nomination in the bag.
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The Minsky Moment

#6657
March 09, 2016, 11:08:14 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 09, 2016, 02:14:20 AM
I think this is a large part of the Donald's appeal

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/07/donald-trump-why-americans-support


Except - everything that Donald has actually done with this life is part of the problem that Guardian claims to be identifying.  Knocking down old line department stores to build luxury condos.  Bulldozing old working class neighborhoods to build highly leveraged casinos that go bust.  Even his reality show is the ultimate expression of the winner-take-all ethos: dozens compete for a single job opening, where "success" entails deferential toadying to the big boss.

I can get why working class people would go to Bernie over Hillary.  But Trump?  At risk of being the arrogant ivory tower elitist, that is just false consciousness.  Yuge, yuge, false consciousness.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Valmy

#6658
March 09, 2016, 11:11:02 AM
False consciousness is all my middle class Languish buds supporting Sanders  :mad:
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Martinus

#6659
March 09, 2016, 11:15:38 AM
Supporting any other Republican candidate is at least as much if not more false consciousness for working class Americans as Trump. What's the alternative? Harvard graduate Cruz? Rich Wall-Street-Jew-bought Rubio? Union busting Kasich?

At least Trump is authentic and could play a "I was one of them so I know how to bust them" card.
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