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Started by merithyn, October 09, 2012, 02:22:16 PM

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merithyn

Max brought this to my attention. I think this guy's an idiot, but hey, what a way to die, right?

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QuoteExtreme athlete and skydiver Felix Baumgartner hopes to end five years of preparation with a death-defying 23-mile free fall into the southeastern New Mexico desert Tuesday morning.

Weather permitting, the 43-year-old Austrian will take off in a 55-story, ultra-thin and easy-to-tear helium balloon that will take him into the stratosphere for a jump that he hopes will make him the first skydiver to break the sound barrier and shatter three other world records.

The balloon is set to launch at about 7 a.m. local time from a field near the airport in a flat dusty town that until now has been best known for a rumored 1947 UFO landing.

After a nearly three-hour ascent to 120,000 feet, Baumgartner will take a bunny-style hop from a pressurized capsule into a near-vacuum where there is barely any oxygen to begin what is expected to be the fastest, farthest free fall from the highest-ever manned balloon.

But the former military parachutist can only make the jump if winds are no greater than 2 mph. A cold front already delayed the jump by one day, but his team was optimistic Monday that a break before a second cold front is due to arrive Thursday will give him the opportunity to complete his mission.

Baumgartner spent Monday at his hotel, mentally preparing for the dangerous feat with his parents, girlfriend and four close friends, his team said.

Among the risks: any contact with the capsule on his exit could tear the pressurized suit. A rip could expose him to a lack of oxygen and temperatures as low as 70 degrees below zero. It could cause potentially lethal bubbles to form in his bodily fluids, a condition known as "boiling blood."

He could also spin out of control, causing other risky problems.

The energy drink maker Red Bull, which is sponsoring the feat, has been promoting a live Internet stream of the event at this website from nearly 30 cameras on the capsule, the ground and a helicopter. But organizers said there will be a 20-second delay in their broadcast of footage in case of a tragic accident.

Despite the dangers and questionable wind forecast, high performance director Andy Walshe said the team was excited, not nervous.

Baumgartner has made two practice jumps, one from 15 miles in March and another from 18 miles in July.

"With these big moments, you get a kind of sense that the energy changes," he said Monday. "It really is just kind of a heightened energy. It keeps you on your toes. It's not nervousness, it's excitement."

During the ascent, Walshe said, the team will have views from a number of cameras, including one focused directly on Baumgartner's face. Additionally, they will have data from life support and other systems that show things like whether he is getting enough oxygen.

The team also expects constant communication with Baumgartner, although former astronaut Joe Kittinger, whose 1960 free-fall record from 19.5 miles Baumgartner hopes to break, is the only member of mission control who will be allowed to talk to him.

And while Baumgartner hopes to set four new world records, his free fall is more than just a stunt.

His dive from the stratosphere should provide scientists with valuable information for next-generation spacesuits and techniques that could help astronauts survive accidents.

Jumping from more than three times the height of the average cruising altitude for jetliners, Baumgartner's expects to hit a speed of 690 mph or more before he activates his parachute at 9,500 feet above sea level, or about 5,000 above the ground in southeastern New Mexico. The total jump should take about 10 minutes.

His medical director is Dr. Jonathan Clark, a NASA space shuttle crew surgeon who lost his wife, Laurel Clark, in the 2003 Columbia accident. No one knows what happens to a body when it breaks the sound barrier, Clark said.

"That is really the scientific essence of this mission," said Clark, who is dedicated to improving astronauts' chances of survival in a high-altitude disaster.

Clark told reporters Monday he expects Baumgartner's pressurized spacesuit to protect him from the shock waves of breaking the sound barrier. If all goes well and he survives the jump, NASA could certify a new generation of spacesuits for protecting astronauts and provide an escape option from spacecraft at 120,000 feet, he said.

Currently, spacesuits are certified to protect astronauts to 100,000 feet, the level Kittinger reached in 1960. Kittinger's speed of 614 mph was just shy of breaking the sound barrier at that altitude.

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Brazen

He's handsome too, it would be such a waste. Honestly I can't see it happening. 2mph winds at ground level and no more than 4mph on the way up? Could take months.

katmai

Attempt today was called off already.
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Syt

Austrian media follow it closely. The reporting goes:
- He'll jump! Today!
- No, he doesn't.
- But today for sure!
- Uhm, no.
Etc.
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Quote from: Brazen on October 09, 2012, 02:24:12 PM
He's handsome too, it would be such a waste. Honestly I can't see it happening. 2mph winds at ground level and no more than 4mph on the way up? Could take months.
Seems like an astronaut jumping out of a spaceship wouldn't have the luxury of those conditions.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 09, 2012, 11:38:33 PM
Seems like an astronaut jumping out of a spaceship wouldn't have the luxury of those conditions.

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QuoteNo one knows what happens to a body when it breaks the sound barrier, Clark said.

My guess would be severe internal shifting.  Like chips in transit.  Contents will settle.

Grey Fox

Quote from: merithyn on October 09, 2012, 02:22:16 PM
Max brought this to my attention. I think this guy's an idiot, but hey, what a way to die, right?

Article

QuoteExtreme athlete and skydiver Felix Baumgartner hopes to end five years of preparation with a death-defying 23-mile free fall into the southeastern New Mexico desert Tuesday morning.

Weather permitting, the 43-year-old Austrian will take off in a 55-story, ultra-thin and easy-to-tear helium balloon that will take him into the stratosphere for a jump that he hopes will make him the first skydiver to break the sound barrier and shatter three other world records.

The balloon is set to launch at about 7 a.m. local time from a field near the airport in a flat dusty town that until now has been best known for a rumored 1947 UFO landing.

After a nearly three-hour ascent to 120,000 feet, Baumgartner will take a bunny-style hop from a pressurized capsule into a near-vacuum where there is barely any oxygen to begin what is expected to be the fastest, farthest free fall from the highest-ever manned balloon.

But the former military parachutist can only make the jump if winds are no greater than 2 mph. A cold front already delayed the jump by one day, but his team was optimistic Monday that a break before a second cold front is due to arrive Thursday will give him the opportunity to complete his mission.

Baumgartner spent Monday at his hotel, mentally preparing for the dangerous feat with his parents, girlfriend and four close friends, his team said.

Among the risks: any contact with the capsule on his exit could tear the pressurized suit. A rip could expose him to a lack of oxygen and temperatures as low as 70 degrees below zero. It could cause potentially lethal bubbles to form in his bodily fluids, a condition known as "boiling blood."

He could also spin out of control, causing other risky problems.

The energy drink maker Red Bull, which is sponsoring the feat, has been promoting a live Internet stream of the event at this website from nearly 30 cameras on the capsule, the ground and a helicopter. But organizers said there will be a 20-second delay in their broadcast of footage in case of a tragic accident.

Despite the dangers and questionable wind forecast, high performance director Andy Walshe said the team was excited, not nervous.

Baumgartner has made two practice jumps, one from 15 miles in March and another from 18 miles in July.

"With these big moments, you get a kind of sense that the energy changes," he said Monday. "It really is just kind of a heightened energy. It keeps you on your toes. It's not nervousness, it's excitement."

During the ascent, Walshe said, the team will have views from a number of cameras, including one focused directly on Baumgartner's face. Additionally, they will have data from life support and other systems that show things like whether he is getting enough oxygen.

The team also expects constant communication with Baumgartner, although former astronaut Joe Kittinger, whose 1960 free-fall record from 19.5 miles Baumgartner hopes to break, is the only member of mission control who will be allowed to talk to him.

And while Baumgartner hopes to set four new world records, his free fall is more than just a stunt.

His dive from the stratosphere should provide scientists with valuable information for next-generation spacesuits and techniques that could help astronauts survive accidents.

Jumping from more than three times the height of the average cruising altitude for jetliners, Baumgartner's expects to hit a speed of 690 mph or more before he activates his parachute at 9,500 feet above sea level, or about 5,000 above the ground in southeastern New Mexico. The total jump should take about 10 minutes.

His medical director is Dr. Jonathan Clark, a NASA space shuttle crew surgeon who lost his wife, Laurel Clark, in the 2003 Columbia accident. No one knows what happens to a body when it breaks the sound barrier, Clark said.

"That is really the scientific essence of this mission," said Clark, who is dedicated to improving astronauts' chances of survival in a high-altitude disaster.

Clark told reporters Monday he expects Baumgartner's pressurized spacesuit to protect him from the shock waves of breaking the sound barrier. If all goes well and he survives the jump, NASA could certify a new generation of spacesuits for protecting astronauts and provide an escape option from spacecraft at 120,000 feet, he said.

Currently, spacesuits are certified to protect astronauts to 100,000 feet, the level Kittinger reached in 1960. Kittinger's speed of 614 mph was just shy of breaking the sound barrier at that altitude.

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merithyn

Quote from: Grey Fox on October 10, 2012, 06:44:37 AM
Quote from: merithyn on October 09, 2012, 02:22:16 PM
Max brought this to my attention. I think this guy's an idiot, but hey, what a way to die, right?

Do you think all astronauts are idiots too? Are all scientists?

What in my statement made you draw any conclusion that I would?
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Grey Fox

Because what he is doing akin to that. Kittinger did the samething 53 years ago & hes not considered an idiot.
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merithyn

Quote from: Grey Fox on October 10, 2012, 09:56:50 AM
Because what he is doing akin to that. Kittinger did the samething 53 years ago & hes not considered an idiot.

Trying to equate what this man is attempting to do with playing with test tubes and microscopes in a lab (something the majority of scientists do) is rather stupid, imo. So it was rather stupid to imply that I would think that "all scientists" are idiots.

As for do I think that all astronauts are idiots, no, I don't. However, they're in very controlled environments, unlike what this man is attempting.

The fact that this is the first time ever for such a stunt says that there is no equivalent. Ergo, calling him an idiot does not in any way mean that I'm calling anyone else an idiot. Well, except you now.
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Berkut

But it isn't the first time - this exact same thing has been done many times, just not quite as high.

That is like saying the first time someone tried to fly faster than anyone has the time before that is "the first time for such a stunt". Not it isn't - speed records for flying (as an example) were broken over and over and over again. The men flying those planes were not "idiots", I don't think, although plenty paid for the attempt with their lives.

I don't understand what is different about what this guy is doing that makes him an idiot compared to others. What is any less controlled about his environment than Kittingers? They both rode a balloon really high and jumped out, it was very dangerous for both of them.

The only real difference here is what auspice the attempt is being made under - in this case, it is a privately funded attempt as opposed to a government funded and controlled attempt. Is that what defines this as idiotic, rather than brave and noble?
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merithyn

What defines it as idiotic - in my opinion - is going up in a ballon to where there is no atmosphere and jumping out. I think it's stupid. I define that as idiotic and neither brave nor noble.

You're welcome to define idiotic however you choose. To me, this is one way to do so.
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Berkut

So Kittinger was idiotic as well?

And astronauts are idiotic, since they go up in a spaceship where there is no atmosphere?

Or is it specifically the balloon that makes it idiotic? Or the jumping out?

What if he went up in a glider and jumped out?

What if he went up in a balloon, but did not jump out?
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