Member of House Science Committee: Evolution is a lie from the pits of hell

Started by Syt, October 07, 2012, 01:46:35 AM

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CountDeMoney

#30
October 08, 2012, 12:44:58 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on October 07, 2012, 04:38:24 AM
There is quite a long history of charismatic fleecer preachers. Megachurches and the Christian industry is quite lucrative. I will probably join in a decade or two.

Don't join in.  Start your own.

Syt

#31
October 08, 2012, 12:59:34 AM
"I'd like to start a religion. That's where the money is!"
- L. Ron Hubbard (supposedly)

http://www.bible.ca/scientology-1million-start-a-religion.htm
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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Martinus

#32
October 08, 2012, 01:03:42 AM
I think it leads to a question if (and if so, when), personal views should disqualify a person from being able to engage in a certain profession?

Should someone be allowed to work as a medical doctor if he or she openly disagrees with some basic tenets of medical science? What about a biology teacher who thinks evolution is a lie from the pits of hell?

Phillip V

#33
October 08, 2012, 01:07:39 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 08, 2012, 01:03:42 AM
I think it leads to a question if (and if so, when), personal views should disqualify a person from being able to engage in a certain profession?

Should someone be allowed to work as a medical doctor if he or she openly disagrees with some basic tenets of medical science? What about a biology teacher who thinks evolution is a lie from the pits of hell?
If doctor gets the job done well, then I don't care what they say.

Martinus

#34
October 08, 2012, 01:17:45 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on October 08, 2012, 01:07:39 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 08, 2012, 01:03:42 AM
I think it leads to a question if (and if so, when), personal views should disqualify a person from being able to engage in a certain profession?

Should someone be allowed to work as a medical doctor if he or she openly disagrees with some basic tenets of medical science? What about a biology teacher who thinks evolution is a lie from the pits of hell?
If doctor gets the job done well, then I don't care what they say.

A part of doctor's job is to build trust in patients. Someone who rejects basic tenets of his job does not build that trust. And I don't think it is a good idea to wait until the doctor fucks something up before firing him, when the signs of him not being properly educated are all over the place. It would be like letting an avowed pedophile work as a kindergarden teacher, as until he rapes a child, he should be allowed a free pass.

What about a biology teacher who believes in creationism, by the way? Or a priest who is openly an atheist?

Razgovory

#35
October 08, 2012, 01:18:25 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 08, 2012, 01:03:42 AM
I think it leads to a question if (and if so, when), personal views should disqualify a person from being able to engage in a certain profession?

Should someone be allowed to work as a medical doctor if he or she openly disagrees with some basic tenets of medical science? What about a biology teacher who thinks evolution is a lie from the pits of hell?

This is probably not a question that you of all people should bring up.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Martinus

#36
October 08, 2012, 01:19:05 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2012, 01:18:25 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 08, 2012, 01:03:42 AM
I think it leads to a question if (and if so, when), personal views should disqualify a person from being able to engage in a certain profession?

Should someone be allowed to work as a medical doctor if he or she openly disagrees with some basic tenets of medical science? What about a biology teacher who thinks evolution is a lie from the pits of hell?

This is probably not a question that you of all people should bring up.
:huh:

Eddie Teach

#37
October 08, 2012, 01:34:40 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2012, 01:18:25 AM
This is probably not a question that you of all people should bring up.

Why is that? Medicine and teaching are professions with standards.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

jimmy olsen

#38
October 08, 2012, 01:37:47 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 07, 2012, 10:09:01 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 07, 2012, 09:26:42 PM
Am I the only one who finds it weirder that he's a doctor? :blink:

Yeah, I know it's technically possible to fail to understand/disbelieve in basic science concepts and still successfully diagnose illnesses and treat disease, in the same manner that it's technically possible to think that summary executions are the best justice policy while zealously representing criminal defendants in court, but nonetheless I'm not sure I would personally feel comfortable hiring either.
You shouldn't be that down on yourself.
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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
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Viking

#39
October 08, 2012, 02:32:05 AM
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

CountDeMoney

#40
October 08, 2012, 05:23:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 08, 2012, 01:19:05 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2012, 01:18:25 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 08, 2012, 01:03:42 AM
I think it leads to a question if (and if so, when), personal views should disqualify a person from being able to engage in a certain profession?

Should someone be allowed to work as a medical doctor if he or she openly disagrees with some basic tenets of medical science? What about a biology teacher who thinks evolution is a lie from the pits of hell?

This is probably not a question that you of all people should bring up.
:huh:

He means that talking out of your ass never got you blocked from becoming a lawyer.

Syt

#41
October 08, 2012, 05:36:20 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2012, 05:23:50 AM
He means that talking out of your ass never got you blocked from becoming a lawyer.

Isn't that actually a major job requirement?
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

CountDeMoney

#42
October 08, 2012, 05:41:52 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 08, 2012, 05:36:20 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2012, 05:23:50 AM
He means that talking out of your ass never got you blocked from becoming a lawyer.

Isn't that actually a major job requirement?

Well, one would expect knowledge of the law would suffice, but we've seen that's never been the case for Marty.

JonasSalk

#43
October 08, 2012, 06:55:33 AM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on October 07, 2012, 03:04:36 AM
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Quote from: Martinus on October 07, 2012, 02:05:58 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on October 07, 2012, 01:57:40 AM
Did a quick wiki search on Congressman Broun. He's been married four times. :yes:

And this proves exactly...?

Well, usually the most zealous are so zealous because they have been crapping all over the morals they are posing to defend, and are trying extra hard to hide that.

Like that Magyar Guard nazi chick who was found to had been an established p0rn actress.
Pics/name?

http://www.pestiside.hu/20100330/suddenly-the-magyar-garda-sounds-like-a-lot-more-fun/ <---Not work safe due to girl taking her shirt off.

Nikolett Müller

I found this by googling "magyar garda porn"
Yuman

merithyn

#44
October 08, 2012, 09:34:16 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 07, 2012, 03:51:43 AM
One would think an idea like the Big Bang would be easy for theologists to reinterpret and co-opt into their theology.

Many have.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...
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