Climate Change about to become major issue in Canada

[crazy canuck]

It is true we have had a succession of extremely mild winters. But that could be merely random variation

what i've notice about this winter is that even when it's not really cold as compared to previous years (say like today's minus 20 with windchill) if feels a hell of a lot colder then it should.

Perception of coldness is at least partly subjective and based on the perceived norm. A really cold day in a mild winter feels a lot colder than the same cold day in a winter filled with them.

It also has to do with humidity.  A -20 day up in the interior mountains doesnt seem so cold to me.  But a -8 day here on the coast chills me to the bone.  Mind you I have not experienced a -8 day at sea level for years.

[Ideologue]

It is true we have had a succession of extremely mild winters. But that could be merely random variation.

Of greater concern is the fact, noted by my dad among others, that southern species of animals are moving north - this indicates that long-term change has been noticable in one lifetime.

I thought the fear of losing outdoor rinks was a bit comical.  But you are right, there are much more serious issues.

One need only look at the pine beetle.  Every year the winter cold killed them off so they were not a problem.  Then things warmed up over time and the beetles lived through the winters and began killing trees. Now most Northern mill towns have no supply of timber left after the beetle killed all the pine trees.

Soon those towns will have no economy at all as the last of the salvageable deadwood is coming to an end.

Engineer a plague.

[Malthus]

It is true we have had a succession of extremely mild winters. But that could be merely random variation.

Of greater concern is the fact, noted by my dad among others, that southern species of animals are moving north - this indicates that long-term change has been noticable in one lifetime.

I thought the fear of losing outdoor rinks was a bit comical.  But you are right, there are much more serious issues.

One need only look at the pine beetle.  Every year the winter cold killed them off so they were not a problem.  Then things warmed up over time and the beetles lived through the winters and began killing trees. Now most Northern mill towns have no supply of timber left after the beetle killed all the pine trees.

Soon those towns will have no economy at all as the last of the salvageable deadwood is coming to an end.

On the more humerous side, my wife saw an opossum crossing the street in Toronto for the first time a couple of years ago, and thought it was some sort of gigantic rat. 

[Their range is moving north and so they have started to be seen for the first time as far north as Toronto] 

[crazy canuck]

Engineer a plague.

Actually, that was tried.  In the early years people were not too concerned about the fist signs of die off because it was assumed something could be created to kill the critters off.  But nothing worked very well.  It turned out the only reliable thing that could kill them was the cold and well we didnt have enough of that.

[Ideologue]

[Neil]

It is true we have had a succession of extremely mild winters. But that could be merely random variation.

Of greater concern is the fact, noted by my dad among others, that southern species of animals are moving north - this indicates that long-term change has been noticable in one lifetime.

I thought the fear of losing outdoor rinks was a bit comical.  But you are right, there are much more serious issues.

One need only look at the pine beetle.  Every year the winter cold killed them off so they were not a problem.  Then things warmed up over time and the beetles lived through the winters and began killing trees. Now most Northern mill towns have no supply of timber left after the beetle killed all the pine trees.

Soon those towns will have no economy at all as the last of the salvageable deadwood is coming to an end.

But won't it be interesting for us to see how the pine beetle is eventually brought under control?

[crazy canuck]

But won't it be interesting for us to see how the pine beetle is eventually brought under control?

You mean now that their food source has been killed off.  Yeah, that is going to be great.

[katmai]

'Coche' would be the usual term in Spain. 'Carro' (from 'carromato' - cart) is used in inferior cultures like Latinamerica. 'Carro' and 'caro' don't sound anywhere near the same. 'Carro' has a strong 'r', which most foreigners cannot pronounce.

I did see some ice a couple weeks ago while driving through some mountain passes. Didn't have any hockey equipment handy though.

I'm kicking your culo when i get to Spain.

[Neil]

But won't it be interesting for us to see how the pine beetle is eventually brought under control?

You mean now that their food source has been killed off.  Yeah, that is going to be great.

And that's when the forests come back.

[Monoriu]

Learn something new every day.  I am not aware that there is such a thing as outdoor rinks.  I have always assumed that all ice hockey is played indoors. 

[Hansmeister]

What is this mythical global warming they are talking about?  There hasn't been any in the last 15 years, nor has there been any abnormal warming trends since the end of the "little ice age".

[fhdz]

[HVC]

Come to Ontario. We've got our only little global warming going on. Winter hasn't even started yet

[Hansmeister]

Come to Ontario. We've got our only little global warming going on. Winter hasn't even started yet

And Europe is going through an ice age this winter.  So WTF is your point?  I hate it when religious nutjobs claim their faith is based on science.  There is no science of global warming, just a bunch of religious cultists with pointless computer models.  They're as annoying as Jehova Witness freaks.

[Razgovory]

Come to Ontario. We've got our only little global warming going on. Winter hasn't even started yet

And Europe is going through an ice age this winter.  So WTF is your point?  I hate it when religious nutjobs claim their faith is based on science.  There is no science of global warming, just a bunch of religious cultists with pointless computer models.  They're as annoying as Jehova Witness freaks.

Uh, huh.  Any other conspiracy theories you adhere to?