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Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

Started by Martinus, July 01, 2011, 02:13:22 AM

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Maximus

Quote from: Martinus on July 02, 2011, 05:07:47 AM

They did not do anything wrong? You must be kidding me. They took a fairly incredible claim and did the whole dog and pony show of arresting the chairman of the IMF, disrupting the huge organisation (and possibly causing millions of dollars of damage).

Speaking seriously, I fully think they should have investigated and, if the investigation found evidence, charged him. But the guy is not some common criminal, or even Polanski. He's the head of a major international institution and a major French politician who would not suddenly disappear in the mountains - arresting him was totally unwarranted.

If anything, this proves a complete failure of the US prosecution system, and a good reason why Western democracies should not comply with its wishes (e.g. extradition requests) in future. It's a farce.
Who he was should have zero bearing on whether he was arrested.

Martinus

I know it's gleeful for you lower class* types to see one of your betters brought down but thankfully most of Europe does not work like this.

*Does not technically apply to garbon but he is black and thus prejudiced against the succesful people too.

alfred russel

Quote from: Martinus on July 02, 2011, 09:48:49 AM
So are you guys happy to live in a society where a mere accusation from a woman is enough to get a man arrested?

There is a whole world of difference between "treating accusations seriously" and arresting someone on a purely she-said-he-said basis.

They had DNA evidence and a story they thought was plausible. In this circumstance, yes I am fine with arresting a person. Most of us wouldn't have to sit it out in jail, however, because we don't hold passports from countries that refuse extradition requests.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

alfred russel

Quote from: Martinus on July 02, 2011, 10:04:21 AM
I know it's gleeful for you lower class types to see one of your betters brought down but thankfully most of Europe does not work like this.

:nod: We know. That is why a lot of our ancestors left Europe. Here we don't recognize "betters" and have the principal "all men are created equal."
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Martinus

Yeah well and good riddance. Btw, you did well with this principle (not "principal" btw) while owning slaves for nearly a century.

Maximus

And, in particular, are equal before the law.

Martinus


Maximus

Let's play languish's favourite game. Guess that fallacy!

Let's start with everyone's favourite, the strawman. Nope, doesn't fit.

Ad Hominem? definitely not.

Red Herring? nope

Tu Quoque?  ahh... :hmm:

chipwich

What is the wealth threshold for not being arrested for rape in Poland?

Queequeg

Quote from: Martinus on July 02, 2011, 10:04:21 AM
I know it's gleeful for you lower class*
:D

Everything I know indicates that at least two people in this thread likely make a lot more money than you, at least on absolute terms.  I'm pretty sure I would have a pretty high living standard in Poland, as my amazing fire-making abilities would keep me in pierogis. 

Not that that matters.  I just found this particularly silly, considering.
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Martinus

Actually only alfred russell makes more money. We had a thread on this in TBA recently.

grumbler

Quote from: Martinus on July 02, 2011, 10:04:21 AM
I know it's gleeful for you lower class* types to see one of your betters brought down but thankfully most of Europe does not work like this.

*Does not technically apply to garbon but he is black and thus prejudiced against the succesful people too.
Just quoting this so Marti cannot delete it and claim he never said this.

This is fucking classic!  :lmfao:

Marti, you are one of the least successful people I know of.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Martinus on July 02, 2011, 09:48:49 AM
So are you guys happy to live in a society where a mere accusation from a woman is enough to get a man arrested?

If it were "a mere accusation from a fag", this would be a totally different thread.   :lol: You're beyond transparent, Marty.

grumbler

Quote from: Martinus on July 02, 2011, 10:08:51 AM
Btw, you did well with this principle (not "principal" btw) while owning slaves for nearly a century.
Poles owned slaves for far longer than that, and slavery wasn't abolished there until 1864, almost two years after the Emancipation Proclamation.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Razgovory

Quote from: Martinus on July 02, 2011, 09:57:09 AM

These accusations are baseless. What's more, they were incredible to begin with. Some fucking immigrant whore with clear criminal ties wants to make a quick buck on the blackmail, and a career of a man who is worth perhaps one thousand pieces of shit like her is destroyed. Fucking American cretins.

Nobody is claiming Berlusconi was raped. :unsure:
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