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Started by Martinus, May 24, 2011, 02:45:23 PM

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Zanza2

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May 24, 2011, 03:37:47 PM Last Edit: May 24, 2011, 03:43:17 PM by Zanza2
Quotea. Bias Intimidation. A person is guilty of the crime of bias intimidation if he commits, attempts to commit, conspires with another to commit, or threatens the immediate commission of an offense specified in chapters 11 through 18 of Title 2C of the New Jersey Statutes; N.J.S.2C:33-4; N.J.S.2C:39-3; N.J.S.2C:39-4 or N.J.S.2C:39-5,
(1) with a purpose to intimidate an individual or group of individuals because of race, color, religion, gender, handicap, sexual orientation, or ethnicity; or

This seems to be the most serious charge. Sounds like the perpetrator might be guilty of that.

garbon

#16
May 24, 2011, 03:38:17 PM
Quote from: dps on May 24, 2011, 03:03:00 PM
Did the people who posted the video intend for the guy to die?  'Cause if that was the motivation, their plan was really stupid and they were real lucky that it worked.

Probably not, but certainly the motivation was to be harmful.
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#17
May 24, 2011, 03:45:36 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 24, 2011, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 24, 2011, 02:55:37 PM
How do you even know he was a homophobe?

It says so in the article.

QuoteIt is alleged that online messages posted by Mr Ravi suggested he was not happy about having a gay roommate.

Not really definitive since we don't have the messages.
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viper37

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May 24, 2011, 04:29:03 PM Last Edit: May 24, 2011, 04:33:00 PM by viper37
Quote from: Martinus on May 24, 2011, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 24, 2011, 02:55:37 PM
How do you even know he was a homophobe?

It says so in the article.
Not really.  They only say: "it is alleged that online messages posted by Mr Ravi suggested he was not happy about having a gay roommate."
It's a suspicion, not a fact.
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#19
May 24, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
I laughed.

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#20
May 24, 2011, 04:48:24 PM
Technology has pretty much killed any hope a person has of privacy, sadly.
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#21
May 24, 2011, 05:01:21 PM
Seriously though.  Not guilty.
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May 24, 2011, 05:03:08 PM
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#23
May 24, 2011, 05:03:20 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 24, 2011, 05:01:21 PM
Seriously though.  Not guilty.

Of murder, absolutely.

But even in Canada I can see several minor charges he appears to be guilty of.  Voyeurism and obstruction of justice most notably.
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#24
May 24, 2011, 05:11:56 PM
I sentence him to make embarrassing sex tapes with ugly women where he gets made fun of afterwards.
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#25
May 24, 2011, 06:13:27 PM
Certainly not murder.
Did the guy secretly film it or just come across the gay guy's film and decide to upload it?
The former could still be pretty serious...
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#26
May 24, 2011, 06:26:52 PM
Can somebody please tape Martinus?



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#27
May 24, 2011, 06:42:30 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 24, 2011, 05:03:20 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 24, 2011, 05:01:21 PM
Seriously though.  Not guilty.
Of murder, absolutely.

But even in Canada I can see several minor charges he appears to be guilty of.  Voyeurism and obstruction of justice most notably.
Could you charge voyeurism without having the law struck down by the Charter?  And in this case, obstruction of justice would be the sort of ideological, bullshit charge that they would lay on him for thought-crime.
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#28
May 24, 2011, 07:05:27 PM
Quote from: Tyr on May 24, 2011, 06:13:27 PM
Certainly not murder.
Did the guy secretly film it or just come across the gay guy's film and decide to upload it?
The former could still be pretty serious...

If I recall he put a webcam in there and then streamed it live to some friends.  Why, I have no idea.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

grumbler

#29
May 24, 2011, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: dps on May 24, 2011, 03:03:00 PM
Did the people who posted the video intend for the guy to die?  'Cause if that was the motivation, their plan was really stupid and they were real lucky that it worked.
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