The Great Union-Busting Thread

[Neil]

Postal workers are on rotating strikes here. I wonder how many peopel are really affected? Most of the mail i get no adays are junk mail. i go paperless for alomst everything.

Well, the parcel service still seems some use by private citizens, although courier ground services are usually better for late scale users.

[Razgovory]

I've been on strike for almost a decade.  Nobody has even noticed.

[MadImmortalMan]

Wisky SC just just in favor of Walker's bill over the prior ruling striking it.

[derspiess]

I've been on strike for almost a decade.  Nobody has even noticed.

From the bagel shop?  I heard the new minimum wage finally raised their hourly wage to what you guys were demanding back then, so you can go back to work now.

[Strix]

Berkut should be happy. Lay-off notices are starting to go out, and soon Cuomo the Great's Union Busting Plan will be in full effect. Watch for it coming to a White House near you soon.

[Barrister]

This thread seems as good a one as any:

Canada Post has had a series of rotating strikes for a few weeks.  Today Canada Post announced it is loosing too much money trying to operate this way, so they're instituting a full lockout.

This should be interesting.

[HVC]

and the union is bitching say the postal service is trying to get ottawa to legislae them back to work.

[Berkut]

I used to have some sympathy for public service unions complaining about the state legislating the terms of their contract, often even over-turning negotiatited positions.

Until I read about how the NYS teachers union had a law passed barring the state from using the results of standardized tests as a metric in tenure decisions. You can argue whether that is a good metric or not, but there was no doubt that the union contract allowed it's use. Right up until the union went to the legislature and got their pet legislators to slap an amendment on a bill making it illegal.

So screw them. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

[Strix]

and the union is bitching say the postal service is trying to get ottawa to legislae them back to work.

I am not sure of the exact details but if it's similar to what happens in NY I don't blame the Union for bitching. If NY has a lockout of it's workers e.g. a governmental shutdown than I still have to work but I don't get paid. I get the money back at the back end of my government service, so basically I have to work without pay for my bills or quit.

[DGuller]

The only sympathy I have for public service unions is from the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" perspective.  It concerns me that initiatives such as in Wisconsin were initiated by the oligarchs who think that the Gilded Age is the right model for America.  Them defeating the unions just removes one destructive influence with a far more destructive influence.  That's not the case with Cuomo, though, so fuck the unions.

[Berkut]

and the union is bitching say the postal service is trying to get ottawa to legislae them back to work.

I am not sure of the exact details but since I am union democlone I don't blame the Union for bitching.

FYP.

[Strix]

The only sympathy I have for public service unions is from the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" perspective.  It concerns me that initiatives such as in Wisconsin were initiated by the oligarchs who think that the Gilded Age is the right model for America.  Them defeating the unions just removes one destructive influence with a far more destructive influence.  That's not the case with Cuomo, though, so fuck the unions.

But it is the case with Cuomo, just further demonstrates your inability to think or add any insight to a discussion.

[DGuller]

The only sympathy I have for public service unions is from the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" perspective.  It concerns me that initiatives such as in Wisconsin were initiated by the oligarchs who think that the Gilded Age is the right model for America.  Them defeating the unions just removes one destructive influence with a far more destructive influence.  That's not the case with Cuomo, though, so fuck the unions.

But it is the case with Cuomo, just further demonstrates your inability to think or add any insight to a discussion.

[Strix]

and the union is bitching say the postal service is trying to get ottawa to legislae them back to work.

I am not sure of the exact details but since I am union democlone I don't blame the Union for bitching.

FYP.

So, now I am a Democrat? Or, perhaps a Republocrat?

[Barrister]

and the union is bitching say the postal service is trying to get ottawa to legislae them back to work.

I am not sure of the exact details but if it's similar to what happens in NY I don't blame the Union for bitching. If NY has a lockout of it's workers e.g. a governmental shutdown than I still have to work but I don't get paid. I get the money back at the back end of my government service, so basically I have to work without pay for my bills or quit.

That doesn't make any sense - the point of a lockout is that people can not continue to work.

I would imagine that if you are an essential service I would think you'd be paid as normal.