Canadian Gun Registry Shot Down

[Razgovory]

Time for a gun buying hijack. I'm thinking of getting a Mauser 98K. Time for some sweet bolt action fun.

Go for a Lebel 1886.  Then go around and lance people with German last names.

[Maximus]

I've said it before and i'll repeat it again: only the agents of the State should have weapons; the citizenry is far too irrational to be allowed with firearms.

Whatever makes you think the agents of the state are more rational?

[garbon]

Whoa, Blossom, that's like the very definition of tyranny.

Well he is in Canada, not the US.

[Eddie Teach]

Thank the gods that disturbing fetich isn't part of the canadian psyche - even less the quebecer psyche.

I've said it before and i'll repeat it again: only the agents of the State should have weapons; the citizenry is far too irrational to be allowed with firearms.

Thanks for reminding me why I like our lax gun laws in spite of lacking said fetish. 

[Neil]

I've said it before and i'll repeat it again: only the agents of the State should have weapons; the citizenry is far too irrational to be allowed with firearms.

Whoa, Blossom, that's like the very definition of tyranny.

No it isn't.  A tyranny is a government, particularily an oppressive one, where all the power of the state is vested in a single individual.

Moreover, the effectiveness of an armed citizenry in resisting the power of the government is seriously overrated.  Even the most backwards and gun-crazy area of the United States was not able to resist federal power when the feds decided to integrate the South.

In terms of public safety, long guns are essentially a wash.  There is a slight degree of danger, but they also provide some small protection from property crime.  It's not like we're talking about handguns here, which are entirely negative.

[Grallon]

Whatever makes you think the agents of the state are more rational?

La Raison d'Etat of course. 



G.

[Caliga]

Whatever makes you think the agents of the state are more rational?

Bitch that was going to be followup post to whatever Grals responded with. 

[Malthus]

My family has lots of guns. I grew up with them.

Personally, they were far too casual about them - as a kid, I very nearly did my brothers in - their own fault I might add! Parents never knew, still don't to this day. 

Carl will get introduced to real guns only when he's mature enough to understand and follow proper gun safety. Still, being able to shoot is a reasonable skill to have.

[DGuller]

What do you all think are the odds Tim's fired a gun before? 20%? Tim, don't answer yet.

He's still with us, for better or for worse, so I'd say 0%.

[Ed Anger]

Time for a gun buying hijack. I'm thinking of getting a Mauser 98K. Time for some sweet bolt action fun.

Go for a Lebel 1886.  Then go around and lance people with German last names.

Should be in good condition, only dropped once.

[PDH]

Should be in good condition, only dropped once.

Perhaps only once used - against superiors, 1917.

[The Minsky Moment]

My application to the Marine Corp was turned down due to childhood asthma (which had since gone away), so no.

FUN FACT:  You do not need to be in the armed forces to fire guns! 

Yeah seriously Jimmy, don't you live around Providence or something?  Just get a part time job with the mob captain for your ward.

[Barrister]

Thank the gods that disturbing fetich isn't part of the canadian psyche - even less the quebecer psyche.

You should spend some time in rural/nrothern Quebec.  You'll find plenty fo Quebeckers that own guns, and were quite perturbed by the gun registry.

[Barrister]

the real problem with the original bill was the database boondoggle it led to. If registration was simple and the execution had not been  ... a billion dollar overrun,  I don't think this would have had much of a political life.  Instead it became a symbol of Ottawa waste.

Not quite.  It was always a silly idea, and was never going to do a whole lot to help prevent crime.

But you are correct in that if the roll-out had gone smoothly, cheaply and on-budget it would be hard to get much traction to push for its repeal.  It would be a sunk cost.  But since it was horribly over-budget, and it still doesn't work very well (and to this day many, if not most, long guns are unregistered), opponents were able to overcome the political inertia and (maybe) get it repealed.

[Eddie Teach]

Yeah seriously Jimmy, don't you live around Providence or something?  Just get a part time job with the mob captain for your ward.

Right now he might get more opportunities working with the Yakuza or the tongs.