Canadian Gun Registry Shot Down

[Razgovory]

Excellent news BTW - I've never seen the long gun registry solve a single crime.

Most killings in the US aren't done with long arms.

If we register cars I don't see why we can't register guns.  It makes sense.

[Grey Fox]

It's not exactly down. It's going to be voted on again, go thru an hearing/commission & still hasn't passed the Senate yet.

The Senate?  That's not much of an impediment.

Well, they're old people. They don't all read fast. Especially now that Jacques Demers is one.

[Caliga]

If we register cars I don't see why we can't register guns.  It makes sense.

This, in the eyes of the gun lobby, is the natural progression:

* register guns
* tax guns
* continually raise the tax on guns (i.e. 'sin tax' them)
* ban guns

[Josquius]

If we register cars I don't see why we can't register guns.  It makes sense.

This, in the eyes of the gun lobby, is the natural progression:

* register guns
* tax guns
* continually raise the tax on guns (i.e. 'sin tax' them)
* ban guns

I don't think it'd be possible to ever ban guns. Farmers need them.
Have guns ever been banned anywhere? (genuinly unsure here, I can't think of any examples)

[Caliga]

I don't think it'd be possible to ever ban guns. Farmers need them.
Have guns ever been banned anywhere? (genuinly unsure here, I can't think of any examples)

I agree, and I think the last point is unlikely.  I do see there being an obvious progression from register -> tax, however.

[Caliga]

Oh, and in answer to your other question, IIRC it was illegal to own a handgun in DC from like 1975 to a year ago.  Amazingly, the murder rate did not: decline!

[Josquius]

Oh, and in answer to your other question, IIRC it was illegal to own a handgun in DC from like 1975 to a year ago.  Amazingly, the murder rate did not: decline!

Thats a horrible example against gun control, I'm sick of it being trotted out.
Banning guns in just one city surrounded by a gun crazy nation will of course have no effect. You'd need cops searching every car coming into the city.

I was speaking more of countries there though.

[Caliga]

Banning guns in just one city surrounded by a gun crazy nation will of course have no effect. You'd need cops searching every car coming into the city.

But that's the point, really.  Why did anyone think such a ban would be effective in the first place?  Same reason why gun control will never work in the US if it doesn't happen on a federal level, which it never will thanks to our non-crazy Heartland.

[Grallon]

...a gun crazy nation ...

Thank the gods that disturbing fetich isn't part of the canadian psyche - even less the quebecer psyche.

I've said it before and i'll repeat it again: only the agents of the State should have weapons; the citizenry is far too irrational to be allowed with firearms.





G.

[Caliga]

I've said it before and i'll repeat it again: only the agents of the State should have weapons; the citizenry is far too irrational to be allowed with firearms.

Whoa, Blossom, that's like the very definition of tyranny.

[Razgovory]

I don't think it'd be possible to ever ban guns. Farmers need them.
Have guns ever been banned anywhere? (genuinly unsure here, I can't think of any examples)

I agree, and I think the last point is unlikely.  I do see there being an obvious progression from register -> tax, however.

Guns aren't taxed?  Slippery slope arguments are stupid.

[Caliga]

I'm talking about an annual tax, like many people pay on their cars and land.

[Ed Anger]

Time for a gun buying hijack. I'm thinking of getting a Mauser 98K. Time for some sweet bolt action fun.

[Razgovory]

I'm talking about an annual tax, like many people pay on their cars and land.

Guess it could happen but that doesn't seem likely.

[Grey Fox]

Can you buy an UMP in my honor?