US 2020 Presidential Election prediction thread

[Valmy]

The Funks, garbons (before he flipped a bitch and left country) and even derspicy's kids and I are the future of America. You old White people ( including derspicy) are the past.

Well good luck with that. I only really care about the present of America right now.

[katmai]

Wait were youse guys really thinking Florida wasn't going to Trump?

[Valmy]

Wait were youse guys really thinking Florida wasn't going to Trump?

Fuck if I knew. I just knew Joe needed to win one of North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, and Pennsylvania.

[Sheilbh]

Nah, the Trumpists are the Republican party now. Hopefully not in the sense that they are led by someone as personally miserable as Trump, but they not going to revert to their pretrump stage when Romney was the nominee. They are a populist party now.

Yeah - and thinking about that article from the New Yorker. So far it looks like Trump doing better with Latinos and, to a far lesser extent African Americans, while education is becoming  more of a divide. (education seems a more profound divide - a bit like the ROTW). Maybe the Reversalist re-alignment takes place, especially with Latinos, and the GOP becomes the party of the people - while the Democrats become the party of the well-educated, public sector workers (big cities and college towns), like what's happened to the left in much of Europe. I think that is the better direction for the GOP to go than to double-down on nativism (the Cotton style of Trumpism) or to revert to Mitt Romney style Republicanism.

Regardless, after tonight, there's no way that Trumpism is gone from the GOP. If he loses I wouldn't bet against another run in 2024, or Jr making a run.

Wait were youse guys really thinking Florida wasn't going to Trump?

No. My very deep prejudice that fundamentally Florida is a messy bitch who lives for the drama has only deepened tonight

[Razgovory]

I hate Florida.

[Caliga]

It's the Cubans.  I think the only real way to deal with that 'issue' is for us to overthrow the current regime in Cuba and hand the country to the exiles.

[Barrister]

It's the Cubans.  I think the only real way to deal with that 'issue' is for us to overthrow the current regime in Cuba and hand the country to the exiles.

Sounds like a win-win scenario.

[Caliga]

Sounds like a win-win scenario.

I just think it's lame that the best way to break a hold over a certain group is to engage in military adventures abroad.

[crazy canuck]

It's the Cubans.  I think the only real way to deal with that 'issue' is for us to overthrow the current regime in Cuba and hand the country to the exiles.

Sounds like a win-win scenario.

for whom?  The US - invading a country because a bunch of Trumpists want them to?  That sounds like a big loss for the US.

The people of Cuba getting invaded by a bunch of Trumpist?  No so great either.

The world becoming even more destabalized by the bad old days of American imperialism?

Sounds like a lose, lose, lose proposition to me.

[Barrister]

It's the Cubans.  I think the only real way to deal with that 'issue' is for us to overthrow the current regime in Cuba and hand the country to the exiles.

Sounds like a win-win scenario.

for whom?  The US - invading a country because a bunch of Trumpists want them to?  That sounds like a big loss for the US.

The people of Cuba getting invaded by a bunch of Trumpist?  No so great either.

The world becoming even more destabalized by the bad old days of American imperialism?

Sounds like a lose, lose, lose proposition to me.

The smiley face generally indicates a less than completely serious post.

But in general the idea of removing the despotic Cuban communist government would be a huge boon to the Cuban people.

[HVC]

It's the Cubans.  I think the only real way to deal with that 'issue' is for us to overthrow the current regime in Cuba and hand the country to the exiles.

Sounds like a win-win scenario.

for whom?  The US - invading a country because a bunch of Trumpists want them to?  That sounds like a big loss for the US.

The people of Cuba getting invaded by a bunch of Trumpist?  No so great either.

The world becoming even more destabalized by the bad old days of American imperialism?

Sounds like a lose, lose, lose proposition to me.

The smiley face generally indicates a less than completely serious post.

But in general the idea of removing the despotic Cuban communist government would be a huge boon to the Cuban people.

If when given the privilege of voting cubans chose to vote for the likes of Trump maybe we should reconsider a democratic cuba

[crazy canuck]

It's the Cubans.  I think the only real way to deal with that 'issue' is for us to overthrow the current regime in Cuba and hand the country to the exiles.

Sounds like a win-win scenario.

for whom?  The US - invading a country because a bunch of Trumpists want them to?  That sounds like a big loss for the US.

The people of Cuba getting invaded by a bunch of Trumpist?  No so great either.

The world becoming even more destabalized by the bad old days of American imperialism?

Sounds like a lose, lose, lose proposition to me.

The smiley face generally indicates a less than completely serious post.

But in general the idea of removing the despotic Cuban communist government would be a huge boon to the Cuban people.

See, for a moment I was prepared to accept that you were joking.  But then you went with the line that it would actually make sense.  You are looking a lot more like DerIdiot.  "It was a joke but you know there is some truth to it"

[Tonitrus]

We should have offered them statehood after the Spanish American war.  And that might have/could have happened...but the racism of the time almost certainly precluded the idea.

[Valmy]

Sounds like a win-win scenario.

I just think it's lame that the best way to break a hold over a certain group is to engage in military adventures abroad.

If they want to form their own army we might look the other way if they want to overthrow the Castros. That is about as far we would be willing to go I think.

But the Castros are not nearly as unpopular in Cuba as they are in Miami I don't think.

[crazy canuck]

We should have offered them statehood after the Spanish American war.  And that might have/could have happened...but the racism of the time almost certainly precluded the idea.