Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2/Covid-19 Megathread

[DGuller]

Dorsey, you forgot to change accounts again.

I was just curious about the answer to that question myself, but it was obvious that coming from Dorsey it would only get vitriol.  Maybe it would be different if I asked that question.

Plausible

Totally

Good, we have the entire axis of stupid in one reply chain.

[The Minsky Moment]

More musician deaths from COVID - Lee Konitz, arguably the greatest white alto player and Henry Grimes, bass.  Grimes famously went missing for about 30 years and was presumed dead before being discovered by a social worker living in a SoCal SRO.  He then went on to have a very successful second career, at least by free jazz musician standards.  Now sadly he really is dead.

[Sheilbh]

The Daily Star, day 2.


I now fully expect that by the end of the week the Star will have a Stevie Wonder impersonator following Boris and/or Dom around  

Edit: This is all weirdly appropriate given that in his days as a young journalist, Johnson's Director of Communications was the Mirror Chicken:

[Richard Hakluyt]

BrewDog have launched a new beer, its called Barnard Castle Eye Test :  https://www.brewdog.com/uk/barnard-castle-eye-test

[alfred russel]

If you have a cottage 250 miles away, why not self isolate there to be more comfortable?

If the reason is because it will make people who don't have a cottage jealous that they don't have one--that is a terrible basis for public policy and comes back to my point: so many of the rules seem to be based on the premise, "this is serious, so no one have any fun."

Because a lot can happen in 250 miles. The car can break down. The car could need gas. A family member might need to use the washroom.

It's not about not having fun. It's about keeping the virus in as small an area as can possibly be made. Traipsing across the country isn't doing that.

To a much larger point, the more stringent rules are not connected to actual experience. Case in point--the past several weeks I have been rock climbing outdoors on weekends. I have also been to a reopened indoor climbing gym in Atlanta. I have gotten a haircut. I have eaten in a restaurant (all the indoor stuff had mitigation rules in place). It has now been over a month that these things were allowed in Georgia, and hospitalizations are lower than when everything was allowed to open.

You can come up with a story of how almost every activity can transmit virus. The risk of driving 250 miles is exceeding low.   Lets force a family to be miserable for 2 months because their car might break down on a single trip, and if it does they might transmit the virus to someone who helps them? It is madness.

The problem with all these stringent rules is that no one is considering the relative risks of complying with some rather than all. For example, church services have been restarting, and anecdotally many people are singing and mingling in indoor spaces without masks--which seems just about the worst possible thing that can happen. There also seems to be almost no context behind the 6 feet socially distancing rule: length of time and whether indoors or outdoors are relevant factors but oh well. The same goes for masks, which a significant segment of the population now views as some sort of oppression despite them seeming to be effective.

[crazy canuck]

I like how you cite stats generated by Georgia with authority

[alfred russel]

I like how you cite stats generated by Georgia with authority

Stay woke, CC. The truth is out there.

[derspiess]

[Zoupa]

I like how you cite stats generated by Georgia with authority

Stay woke, CC. The truth is out there.

[alfred russel]

Zoupa, you want to compare that to the chart of testing conducted?

[HVC]

You have a folder dedicated to Elon musk?

[Zoupa]

You have a folder dedicated to Elon musk?

I'm preparing to be a farmer on Mars.

[Zoupa]

Zoupa, you want to compare that to the chart of testing conducted?

Compare it all you want. Do you wanna see the chart for Georgia deaths?

[alfred russel]

Zoupa, you want to compare that to the chart of testing conducted?

Compare it all you want. Do you wanna see the chart for Georgia deaths?

Yes please.

[DGuller]

Zoupa, you want to compare that to the chart of testing conducted?

Compare it all you want. Do you wanna see the chart for Georgia deaths?

If the argument you're trying to make is that Georgia's numbers discredit their strategy, you are unlikely to find them.  Sure, you can post lines that go up all you want, but all states have lines that go up, and thankfully none have lines that go up more than linearly.  None of the US states even come close to the Brazil shape curve, which is the kind of curve you want to see if you want to make a point about reckless handling of COVID.  This may change in time, but so far the only viable argument to make against Georgia's handling of COVID is to question their data collection.