Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Syt]

[The Larch]

Why is unelected in quotes?

With all the stress they're puttinng in the result of the referendum by the "Brexit means Brexit" side, and how it's all the people's will and it's their sacrosanct duty to deliver that, I take it as another shot at Brexit oponents with that argument. Remember all the claims about "unelected EU bureaucrats/elites", this seems to be an attempt at creating another oposition body to label as official enemy to pin anything that goes wrong to.

[Gups]

Why is unelected in quotes?

Obviously they are quoting May.

[Zanza]

Jeremy Corbyn 'likely to stay on' even if Labour suffers crushing election defeat
Party leader will try to stay on until at least autumn to secure a left-wing legacy, sources say

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-stay-on-leader-labour-party-general-election-2017-party-conference-a7691911.html

That's a real saboteur for you.

[garbon]

Jeremy Corbyn 'likely to stay on' even if Labour suffers crushing election defeat
Party leader will try to stay on until at least autumn to secure a left-wing legacy, sources say

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-stay-on-leader-labour-party-general-election-2017-party-conference-a7691911.html

That's a real saboteur for you.

[Zoupa]

This just hastens the UK's break-up.

Hurry it up Scotland!

[mongers]

This just hastens the UK's break-up.

Hurry it up Scotland!

See the 'offical' Languish election thread here:

http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,14972.new.html#new

I to think this will be the last UK general election. 

[Tamas]

To me it sounds like Corbyn wants to replicate what Trump did: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39649119

Which is laughable. Nowadays you garner anti-establishment support by being intolerant, anti-Muslim and a bit jingoist. NOT by being an anti-semite anti-military internationalist.

[Josquius]

It is his only hope.
Don't see it though
Wrong kind of stupid

[grumbler]

The only problem is that the Daily Mail and the like would set the UK on fire if that happened.

With a soft, Norway-like Brexit, however, the Leavers could pretend they have not changed their mind over the whole thing seeing all this ordeal, and stay relatively quiet while the LibDems enact it.

However, if Brexit is just revoked, Leavers can't retreat with their face intact.

England has the secret ballot, so Leavers don't need to confess that they screwed the pooch the first time.

[grumbler]

Man we now have to kowtow to the wishes of the Daily Mail? I hate the 21st century.

Parliament used to be sovereign.  Now, apparently, the Daily Fail is.

[Zanza]

MOST EU member states believe that Britain's withdrawal from the bloc must be costly, and that any future trade arrangement must offer the departing country worse terms than full membership did. An index devised by The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), our sister company, gauges the views of EU states on the four core negotiating issues: the amount of money Britain will have to pay to leave; the four EU freedoms (movement of goods, services, workers and capital); trade arrangements and tariff barriers; and defence ties. The EIU's analysts have assessed the stance of each of the EU members to generate a score out of 40, and then classified the countries into three clusters: "hard-core", "hard" and "soft".

Of the seven "hard-core" countries, the sternest of all is France, which has the highest score in the index at 32.5. This cluster mixes the traditional Anglophobes, Belgium and France, with the poorest member states, Bulgaria and Romania, who are concerned about both free movement and the budget. It also includes Germany, which sees itself as the custodian of the EU's future cohesion.

A plurality of countries fall into the 12-member "hard" category, with scores of 25‑30, which indicate fairly strong opposition to Britain's position. The final eight EU members, with scores below 25, make up the "soft" category. They include some which share Britain's liberal position on trade and EU regulation—such as Sweden and Denmark. It also includes Ireland, with whom Britain has close historical and trade ties. The Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania) and Poland, which are most exposed to threats from Russia, put a premium on Britain's contribution to the defence and security of the continent.

Nonetheless, even the countries most sympathetic to Britain have limits on how generous they will allow the terms of Brexit to be. If nothing else, the importance of maintaining warm relations with the remaining EU members will dissuade them from undermining the group's overall negotiating position.

[Valmy]

When Ireland is among the most pro-British you might have a problem.

[Duque de Bragança]

When Ireland is among the most pro-British you might have a problem.

Sellouts! 

[Jacob]

When Ireland is among the most pro-British you might have a problem.

Not really... Ireland is one of the EU countries that stands to lose the most from a harder Brexit.