Star Wars Discussion Thread contains spoilers (and may contain nuts)

[Brazen]

There's no gore, but they do aim better than in the first 6 movies.

5 years is maybe too young as there is more evil in this one than the others. And no ewoks to counter it.

There were kids aged two or three in the showing I went to, presumably so they can say later "I was there". It's too long for them to concentrate or go without a toilet break.

[celedhring]

There's no gore, but they do aim better than in the first 6 movies.

Actually, me and a friend of mine were wondering if the scene where Finn gets blood smeared on his helmet was the most blood that's ever been shown in a Star Wars film. Is that true?

[Liep]

There's no gore, but they do aim better than in the first 6 movies.

Actually, me and a friend of mine were wondering if the scene where Finn gets blood smeared on his helmet was the most blood that's ever been shown in a Star Wars film. Is that true?

It could very well be. The slaughter of the villagers also seemed a step further than what the franchise has done before.

[Brazen]

I wanted to see General Leia get all angry and vengeful when Had died. Kylo Ren was like some Harry Potter sixth form bully. And yes Phasma was desperately underused. Crap name anyhow.

[Syt]

There's no gore, but they do aim better than in the first 6 movies.

Actually, me and a friend of mine were wondering if the scene where Finn gets blood smeared on his helmet was the most blood that's ever been shown in a Star Wars film. Is that true?

I think the goriest scene was probably the cut off arm in the cantina in Ep. IV:



The Wampa in ESB-SE also had blood added, but I think it was more cartoonish. Later movies seem to get around this by having the wounds cauterized.

In TFA it obviously serves to make sure Finn stands out, and to have him touched by blood the first time (they later say it's his first combat assignment; and he worked sanitation before) and be horrified by it.



Btw - I agree with most faults you point out about the movie's script, but at the moment I just don't mind them enough. That might change when the "high" of the movie wears off for me.

[celedhring]

There's no gore, but they do aim better than in the first 6 movies.

Actually, me and a friend of mine were wondering if the scene where Finn gets blood smeared on his helmet was the most blood that's ever been shown in a Star Wars film. Is that true?

I think the goriest scene was probably the cut off arm in the cantina in Ep. IV:

Ah yeah, the severed arm. That only stays on picture for a split second though. And I'll agree that Obi-Wan's actions in that scene have always bothered me; he would have scored a few Dark Side points in a KOTOR game

I liked the attack on the village a lot, by the way. I don't think the Empire ever looked that ruthless (except when Tarkin blew up Alderaan, of course). The First Order looks like a more fanatic version of it.

Btw - I agree with most faults you point out about the movie's script, but at the moment I just don't mind them enough. That might change when the "high" of the movie wears off for me.

That's fine. I was just pointing out why those things got in the way of me really embracing the film, but I'm aware others may not be as bothered.

[Syt]

I'm starting to think that the First Order is coming of as kind of the Third Reich to the Empire's Kaiserreich auf the original trilogy, at least when it comes to the military and the officers - more fanatical, more indoctrinated.

[Hamilcar]

I thought Palatine = Augustus?

[Syt]

Random factoid: in canon, only one other character was ever adressed as "Supreme Leader": Asajj Ventress, but only in that horrible first episode of the Clone War animated series.

[Kleves]

It bugs me a bit that Han Solo, one of the coolest characters in film, kinda went out like a chump.

[celedhring]

It bugs me a bit that Han Solo, one of the coolest characters in film, kinda went out like a chump.

Yeah, it bothered me a bit too. At least Luke got to carry out the body of Vader and give him a proper funeral and sendoff. I know a bunch of people that hated the way Han went out.

But I think it's an instance of when it's good to piss off your audience. It helps build up Kylo's character and give him heat.

[celedhring]

Incidentally, the mention of the "search for the first Jedi Temple" got my Star Wars geek juices flowing. I hope that we get to learn a bit about ancient Jedi history, and they don't completely jettison the "Tales of the Jedi" mythology.

[Zanza]

The purpose of Captain Phasma is very simple. Have a distinctive character in the First Order besides Kylo Ren and General Hux (?). If you want to sell toys, a glittering silver storm trooper is the way to do it.

[Zanza]

I guess I am with celedhring. The film is good enough and makes me look forward to more, but it could have been better. They took a lot of shortcuts, omitted some much needed scenes to explain the universe and added some unnecessary stuff, e.g. The scene with the two pirate gangs and Han. They could have spent those five minutes much better. It's not like Han Solo needed an introduction.

[Solmyr]

I noted the somewhat sudden cuts myself in a few places, though they did not diminish the enjoyment for me. It is obvious that Abrams had to cut quite a lot from the theatrical release, and I'll be waiting for the release of the three-hour extended edition.