Climate Change/Mass Extinction Megathread

[Maladict]

This is now considered feasible, turning the entire North Sea (and Baltic) into a lake to control sea level rise.

I guess it will be cheaper than rebuilding all the coastal cities inland. But the damage to the marine ecosystem would be immense.

[Tamas]

What would this solve? 

[Maladict]

What would this solve? 

Sea level rise. Once you isolate a body of water, you can control its level.
But it will turn into a fresh water lake over time.

[Tamas]

What would this solve? 

Sea level rise. Once you isolate a body of water, you can control its level.
But it will turn into a fresh water lake over time.

So basically the ROTW would get more sea level rise with this, plus the total upheaval of marine life, in order to protect the coastal cities and towns around it. Bit of a dick move, isn't it?

[garbon]

Here's an article about it - https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/12/giant-dams-could-protect-millions-from-rising-north-sea

Doesn't seem particularly newsworthy given likelihood of this paper being adopted as policy.

[Maladict]

So basically the ROTW would get more sea level rise with this, plus the total upheaval of marine life, in order to protect the coastal cities and towns around it. Bit of a dick move, isn't it?

That's pretty much the effect of any dam.

[Maladict]

Here's an article about it - https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/12/giant-dams-could-protect-millions-from-rising-north-sea

Doesn't seem particularly newsworthy given likelihood of this paper being adopted as policy.

Ideas like these (including the one where we abandon half the country) should become part of public discourse. That's what the paper is for. 

[Tamas]

Here's an article about it - https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/12/giant-dams-could-protect-millions-from-rising-north-sea

Doesn't seem particularly newsworthy given likelihood of this paper being adopted as policy.

Ideas like these (including the one where we abandon half the country) should become part of public discourse. That's what the paper is for. 

This is far from being a Netherlands-only thing, though.

It fails on having to include the UK, alone. A lot of people would go positively ape over the thought of blocking fish migration routes for the mere benefit of saving millions of livelihoods.

[Maladict]

This is far from being a Netherlands-only thing, though.

It fails on having to include the UK, alone. A lot of people would go positively ape over the thought of blocking fish migration routes for the mere benefit of saving millions of livelihoods.

True. A lot of people would go ape over London being submerged, too.

The Afsluitdijk is being remodeled to accomodate fish migration at the moment, it's pretty cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDo6DX7hksc

[Admiral Yi]

In 2019, US emissions were down 2.9%, Europe was down 5%, Japan down 4%.

Get to work Americans.  Buy more Teslas.

[viper37]

In 2019, US emissions were down 2.9%, Europe was down 5%, Japan down 4%.

Get to work Americans.  Buy more Teslas.

Double bonus, since they destroy forests in Europe to build new plants.  Yuros emissions will be up, while US will be down.  Trump could brag about it, if he was smart...

[Valmy]

In 2019, US emissions were down 2.9%, Europe was down 5%, Japan down 4%.

Get to work Americans.  Buy more Teslas.

Double bonus, since they destroy forests in Europe to build new plants.  Yuros emissions will be up, while US will be down.  Trump could brag about it, if he was smart...

What new plants are they building? Is Europe having an expanding load? Their population is not exactly radically expanding.

[Admiral Yi]

What new plants are they building? Is Europe having an expanding load? Their population is not exactly radically expanding.

He's talking about Elon's Berlin factory, which is blocked right now by tree huggers.

[Valmy]

What new plants are they building? Is Europe having an expanding load? Their population is not exactly radically expanding.

He's talking about Elon's Berlin factory, which is blocked right now by tree huggers.

Oh. I missed that he was talking about Tesla.

[viper37]

In 2019, US emissions were down 2.9%, Europe was down 5%, Japan down 4%.

Get to work Americans.  Buy more Teslas.

Double bonus, since they destroy forests in Europe to build new plants.  Yuros emissions will be up, while US will be down.  Trump could brag about it, if he was smart...

What new plants are they building? Is Europe having an expanding load? Their population is not exactly radically expanding.

I've read over the week-end they were planning to build a new plant in Germany and they would destroy a large forest to do so.  Can't remember where.  Maybe it was FB...